Shortly after BW Chairman Bob Chapman passing in March 2026, it was announced that Pat Berges had been named CEO and Managing Partner of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Chapman & Co. was founded by Bob to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world, improving their leadership, culture and performance.

Pat was a longtime friend and colleague of Bob's, bringing more than 25 years of global leadership experience to Chapman & Co. He shares the convictions that drove Bob's legacy. Pat is the founder of H3 Leadership, now part of Chapman & Co., and has held senior leadership roles at Covidien and Medtronic. He previously served as executive director of The Curve Initiative, a nonprofit founded by bestselling author Simon Sinek, and has led large-scale leadership development and culture transformation efforts across more than 100 countries.

On this episode of the Truly Human Leadership Podcast, Pat talks about his friendship with Bob and how his mentorship was inspiring and challenging. Pat talks about his leadership journey, the future of Chapman & Co. and why their work is more important now than ever.

A couple of episodes ago, we talked about the $60 billion problem. That is the amount of money organizations spend on leadership training a year, although recent reports say that number may be as high as $100 billion a year.

But are organizations really seeing the ROI on that money and if not, why?

This is another installment of the People and Performance Playbook where the experts at Chapman & Co. share their knowledge on leadership development. This episode is an discussion of a recent article in the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter by Theresa Carik, PhD titled: "If a Leadership Program Does Not Change Behavior, What is it Actually Changing?" Joining Theresa in this discussion is Chapman & Co.'s Gunnar Millot.

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Last fall, an episode of this podcast featured a discussion between Bob and Kyle Chapman.

They talked about the legacy of the Chapman family in Barry-Wehmiller with an eye toward the future as Bob passed the mantle of CEO onto Kyle after 50 years in that role. It was a touching, heartfelt conversation between father and son, worth going back to listen, especially in light of Bob's passing on March 19, 2026 after a 16-month battle with leukemia.

A little more than a month later, Kyle Chapman sat down for a wide-ranging conversation with our video producer, Chad Harris. Kyle reflects on the loss of his father, but also talks about how to channel that loss into action in carrying Bob's legacy forward. He talks about the future of Barry-Wehmiller, and lays out very clearly Barry-Wehmiller's intent to redefine success in business by demonstrating how human and economic vibrancy work in harmony. Continuing, expanding and fulfilling the work his dad started.

Did you know that globally, organizations spend more than $60 billion annually on leadership development and training?

$60 billion in seminars, workshops, coaches, certifications, assessments, subscriptions, books and much, much more.

A lot of money spent, but then your leaders are still micromanaging, avoiding difficult conversations and solving every problem themselves. You might as well have just set those dollars on fire.

But, here's the thing, the training didn't fail, the approach did.

On this episode of our People and Performance Playbook series, which features the experts of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Jami Dix and Praisy Isaac discuss why leadership development should be like Russian nesting dolls. Layered, that addresses the heartset and mindset, as well as the skillset of leaders.

You can learn more about Chapman & Co., founded by the late Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to companies around the world at www.ccoleadership.com.

We recently started a series within the larger episode of the podcast called the People and Performance Playbook. The episodes are a little shorter, but packed filled with insight from the experts at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Chapman & Co. was founded by our late CEO and Chairman Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world. You can learn more about them at ccoleadership.com.

On this installment, we hear again from Andrew Barenz and Mike Budden as they expand upon the most recent newsletter article, "What is the Cost of One-Dimensional Leadership in Your Organization?" Chapman & Co. has identified four styes of leadership, which Andrew and Mike discuss.

You can subscribe to the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter when you follow Chapman and Co. on Linkedin.

We continue to honor the late Chairman and CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, Bob Chapman and his legacy on the podcast. This episode is a virtual talk Bob gave to a book club in 2020, during the pandemic.

The club was made up of people around Aspen, Colorado, where Bob lived and they had read his book, Everybody Matters The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. It is an interesting discussion, as Bob is in a relaxed environment talking about his life and sharing the insights he had learned throughout his career, which are the basis of his book.

As you may recall, one of Bob's last projects before his passing in March 2026 was the re-release of Everybody Matters, in a 10th anniversary revised and expanded edition. You can find out more about this new version at: everybodymattersbook.com

On this episode, we're introducing a new regular installment of the podcast, the People and Performance Playbook.

Each one of these episodes will be shorter bits of insight from experts at Chapman &Co. Leadership Institute as they share stories from their work and the thinking and methodology they use to help organizations understand and put into practice the idea that people and performance, or human vibrancy and economic growth, can exist in harmony, not in conflict with one another.

These episodes are also a deeper dive into issues written about in Chapman & Co.'s People and Performance Playbook Newsletter, to which you can subscribe when you find them on LinkedIn.

Today's topic is The Shift in Leadership Norms.

If you want to implement the principles discussed on this podcast within your organization to improve its leadership, culture and performance, check out Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute at ccoleadership.com, founded by Barry-Wehmiller' late CEO and Chairman, Bob Chapman, to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world.

A few weeks ago, Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer spoke at the 2026 i4CP Next Practices Now Conference. Rhonda was a featured speaker, sharing our message of Truly Human Leadership alongside CEOs and other Chief People Officers from companies such as John Deere, Dick's Sporting Goods, Lumen, Northwestern Mutual, Accenture, Microsoft, FedEx and many more.

Originally, Barry-Wehmiller's Chairman, Bob Chapman was supposed to be part of the presentation alongside Rhonda, but he passed away a week before the conference. However, Rhonda was able to incorporate Bob's thoughts through a series of video clips.

As you've heard on episodes in the past, Rhonda was one of the architects of our culture at Barry-Wehmiller and as you'll hear her tell, she was often charged with implementing and putting structure around Bob's ideas.

Rhonda offers an interesting, insightful and candid perspective for anyone who wants to understand more about Barry-Wehmiller's cultural journey. One that we're still on, every day, one step at a time.