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Two Homes

Two Homes

Written by: Sarah Rhodes
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Two Homes, the podcast

where we explore the relationship

between our inner world and the

planet we live on. Because

sustainability that isn’t embodied

doesn’t last - and wellbeing that stays

surface-level doesn’t change anything.​

This podcast is an invitation to look

deeper. To understand how our

nervous systems, beliefs, and patterns

shape the systems we’re trying to

reform - and how real change starts

closer to home than we think.​

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Episodes
  • The Most Important Job in the Room. And Why It's Set Up to Fail
    Apr 28 2026

    If you work in sustainability and sometimes feel exhausted, frustrated, or like you're pushing uphill, you're not imagining it. This episode names the structural reason why: sustainability roles are routinely set up to influence systems they don't control, carry moral weight they weren't designed to hold alone, and measure outputs that don't reflect real change. Drawing on eleven years in the field and a story of one leader who found a way through, we explore what burnout in this space actually looks like, why distributed ownership isn't just a nice idea but a necessary one, and how the shift from concentrated responsibility to shared culture changes everything for the sustainability lead, the team and the organisation.

    Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance — for people and planet — starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.

    Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai Engel

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    29 mins
  • Why Compliance Won't Save the Planet
    Apr 21 2026

    Compliance gets you a certificate. It doesn't get you change. This episode makes the case that the sustainability gap in tourism, and across industries, isn't a policy problem or a paperwork problem. It's a people problem. Drawing on stories from Cambodia to Bali, we look at why the real leverage point isn't what's on paper, but what's embodied in the people running the operation and what that means for leaders serious about building something that actually lasts.

    Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance, for people and planet, starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.


    Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai Engel

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    31 mins
  • The Nervous System as a Leadership KPI
    Apr 21 2026

    The ability to stay steady under pressure isn't a personality trait, it's a strategic asset. This episode unpacks the two-way relationship between systems and nervous systems: how organisational structures shape our underlying patterns, and how those patterns shape the systems we create. And critically, what leaders can do to break the cycle.

    Two Homes is for leaders who know that lasting performance, for people and planet, starts from the inside out. Two homes: the one we inhabit within, and the one we all share.


    Intro and outro music: Brooks, Kai Engel

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    39 mins
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