Jon and Kory tackle one of the most talked-about, and most misunderstood, aspects of leadership: culture.

What actually is culture? How do you know if yours is healthy? And why do some organisations consistently attract great people while others struggle?

Drawing on research, personal experience, and leadership lessons, Jon and Kory discuss how culture is created, how it can be changed, and why hiring for cultural fit is only part of the story. They also explore why even brilliant people can fail in the wrong environment, how agency partners should become an extension of your culture, and why lasting change starts with taking ownership yourself.

Timestamps

00:00 - Start
00:35 - What does the data say about building culture
02:06 - Signs of a healthy culture
04:52 - What actually is culture?
06:27 - The different types of cultures
10:14 - How to hire for people that meet your culture
12:48 - How culture can feed into your agency partners
13:59 - How to change a culture
17:01 - Why is change scary?
20:17 - Dealing with the right person in the wrong culture
21:35 - How our beliefs shape our reality
24:03 - Why you need to take ownership to change the culture

Today, Jon and Kory discuss the moments that define careers. The ones where you have to leap before you know exactly how things will turn out.

From leaving secure jobs to betting on yourself, they reflect on the decisions that shaped their own careers and why waiting until you feel "ready" is often the biggest barrier to growth. They explore the importance of having a strong support network, embracing discomfort, and accepting that sometimes you need to take a step backwards before you can move forwards.

This is an honest conversation about risk, resilience, and why the biggest opportunities often sit just outside your comfort zone.

Timestamps

00:00 - Start
00:35 - Taking a giant leap
01:28 - A moment Kory took a giant leap
04:51 - Taking the leap before you feel ready
06:46 - Why Jon made the giant leap to go full time on the podcast
08:45 - The importance of a support network
10:10 - Get comfortable being uncomfortable
14:50 - The risks of taking the leap of faith
19:02 - Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forward
22:01 - Are you willing to lose the battle to win the war?
24:42 - You need a high risk tolerance

Jon and Kory explore why human connection matters more than ever in a world increasingly dominated by screens, automation, and AI.

From the power of in-person experiences to the importance of empathy in business, they discuss why relationships are still the foundation of great leadership, marketing, and culture. Jon explains why he only records podcasts face-to-face, Kory shares why B2B is ultimately human-to-human, and together they unpack the mistakes agencies often make by forgetting the people behind the pitch.

Timestamps

00:00 - Start
01:42 - What do we mean by human to human?
05:11 - Why we need more humanity now
06:55 - Why Jon only does podcasts in person
09:56 - What the data says about being in person
11:25 - The power of an in person experience
16:03 - Why experience matters
18:58 - Why being human matters in B2B
22:38 - Human relationships and the impact they can have
25:21 - What every agency gets wrong in a pitch
25:54 - How to be more human
27:33 - Everyone has something going on