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Unscripted Small Business

Unscripted Small Business

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Our Unscripted Collaborative hosts Keith Bresee, Zaneta Chuniq, Keiron Bailey & 17 year SEO industry expert Jeremy Rivera are having unscripted interviews small business owners, founders and creators across the United States, learning about their challenges, successes and insights into the world of SMBs.© 2025 Careers Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales Personal Success
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  • Dave Gulas on Customer Service, Entrepreneurship & E-commerce Logistics
    Jan 9 2026

    Episode from the Unscripted Small Business Podcast

    Host: Jeremy Rivera — SEO Arcade Founder & Freelance SEO Consultant

    Guest: Dave Gulas — President & Co-Founder of EZDC 3PL

    Sponsored by: Cookeville Sunroom Company

    About the Guest

    Dave Gulas is the president and co-founder of EZDC 3PL, providing warehousing, fulfillment, and transportation services for manufacturers and e-commerce brands. With 20 years in medical/pharmaceutical sales and over three years in logistics, Dave brings a customer-first approach to the 3PL industry.

    Dave also hosts the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, featuring real stories from entrepreneurs — available on the EZDC Blog and all major podcast platforms.

    Episode Summary

    In this conversation, Dave shares how he and his partner identified a gap in the 3PL market — legacy providers weren't delivering the customer service that growing e-commerce brands needed. Three years later, EZDC has built a reputation for responsiveness and genuine care.

    Key Topics Covered:

    • Why e-commerce brands reach a "graduation point" where outsourcing fulfillment makes sense
    • The importance of warehouse management systems (WMS) and automated integrations
    • Common mistakes when scaling a business — saying yes to the wrong customers
    • Bootstrap vs. funded startups: which succeed more often?
    • The unglamorous reality of entrepreneurship
    • Why personal branding matters more than ever in 2026
    Resources & Links Mentioned About EZDC 3PL
    • EZDC 3PL Homepage
    • About EZDC
    • Packaging and Kitting Services
    • Retail Logistics and Warehousing Services
    • The Kentucky Advantage: Why a Central Hub is Key for Nationwide 3PL
    • EZDC Blog & Beyond Fulfillment Podcast
    Connect with Dave Gulas
    • Dave Gulas on LinkedIn
    SEO & Marketing Resources

    From SEO Arcade:

    • SEO Forecasting 101: Methods, Metrics, Tools, and Challenges
    • The Revenue-First SEO Strategy That's Actually Working
    • Opportunity Sizing in SEO
    • How a Podcast Generates Links, Content, Audience, Citations & Authority
    • White Label Podcast Service

    From Jeremy Rivera SEO:

    • SEO Basics for Small Business
    • Simple, Effective Link Building
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    30 mins
  • The Costanza Theory: How Doing the Opposite Drives Success For Bill Kasko
    Nov 5 2025
    Unscripted Small Business Podcast - Episode Show Notes The Costanza Theory: How Doing the Opposite Built a 21-Year Business Empire

    Guest: Bill Kasko, Founder & CEO of Frontline Source Group
    Host: Jeremy Rivera
    Podcast: Unscripted Small Business

    Episode Summary

    In this episode, Bill Kasko shares how he built a successful recruiting and staffing agency by doing the exact opposite of industry standards. From inverting the traditional sales model to being the first company to publish pricing online, Bill's "Costanza Theory" has disrupted an entire industry for over two decades.

    We dive deep into the evolution of customer service technology, the fragmentation of the search landscape, and how AI is creating both opportunities and challenges for businesses. Bill also shares his insights on the current job market and why honest communication wins more business than overselling.

    Key Topics Discussed The Costanza Theory in Action
    • How inverting the traditional sales-to-recruiter ratio created competitive advantage
    • Why being the only company with a pricing page became their #1 traffic driver
    • The importance of customer convenience over business convenience
    Technology Evolution & Customer Service
    • Early adoption of online chat 21 years ago
    • The rise and fall of chatbot effectiveness
    • 24/7 scheduling and weekend service calls
    • Why AI agents still aren't quite ready
    The Changing Search Landscape
    • Why presence across multiple platforms is now essential
    • How TikTok became the #2 search engine for young users
    • The challenge of getting indexed across different search engines
    • Reddit dominating 60% of search queries
    AI's Impact on Business
    • The rise of fake candidates using AI tools
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    49 mins
  • The Human Element in SEO for SMBS: A Unscripted Interview with Tianna Mamalick
    Dec 8 2025

    Guest: Tianna Mamalick, SMB Marketing School

    Episode Overview

    Tianna Mamalick brings 12 years of SEO expertise focused exclusively on small businesses. In this conversation, she reveals why working with SMBs is more rewarding than enterprise clients, how to honestly manage expectations while delivering real results, and why she went back to human-written content after testing AI extensively. If you're a small business owner wondering what actually works in SEO right now, this episode cuts through the hype with practical, proven strategies.

    Why This Episode Matters for Small Business Owners

    Running a small business means every marketing dollar counts. Tianna specializes in helping businesses with limited budgets compete effectively by focusing on what drives actual revenue—not just traffic or rankings. She shares her formula for pairing SEO and paid ads that works specifically for service-based businesses, and explains why your service pages matter more than blog posts right now.

    Key Discussion Points

    The Small Business Advantage Unlike enterprise clients where a 20% conversion increase gets a polite "that's nice," small business owners email about life-changing results: hiring their first employee, taking their first vacation, or investing in business growth. For Tianna, this feedback makes the work meaningful.

    Honest Expectations Setting

    • Three-month minimum commitment required
    • Clients must have budget they can afford to lose completely
    • Not every market works the same (example: Pilates in Las Vegas vs. other cities)
    • Regular check-ins at three months to evaluate if the strategy is working

    The SEO + Ads Formula While ads don't directly boost SEO, they strategically help prime new pages through engagement. When expanding to multiple locations, running targeted ads on new service pages helps get Google Business Profiles moving faster and improves location-specific performance.

    What's Actually Working in Content

    • Service pages are the priority: Every service needs its own detailed page
    • Blog posts are secondary: Focus on key blog content, not volume
    • Collaboration posts: Feature complementary businesses (example: makeup company writing about top lotions that pair well with their products)
    • Opinion-based content: Take hard stands on your values and approach

    The AI Content Experiment Tianna's agency tested AI-generated content extensively—and none of those articles ranked well. They've gone 100% back to human-written content, using AI only for creating outlines based on top-ranking competitors. The reality: people want authentic mistakes and real human voice.

    AI Search Reality Check Less than 10% of traffic comes from ChatGPT for most small businesses. While you should prepare by enriching About pages with certifications and expertise, this isn't the urgent crisis some marketers claim. Most people aren't using ChatGPT for business searches yet—we're still in early adoption.

    Mining Your Best Content Stop using SEMrush as your starting point. Instead:

    • Record sales calls and note what converts prospects
    • Review customer support emails for common questions
    • Ask front-line staff to keep notebooks of daily questions
    • Use this real language in your content—it converts better than corporate marketing speak

    Platform-Agnostic SEO SEO principles work across all platforms, not jus...

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    41 mins
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