What is meditation really — a technique, a discipline, or a state of being?
In this episode of What Truly Matters, Svagito Liebermeister joins Candra Karlholm for a rich conversation about meditation, practice, and what it means to truly be present with oneself.
Svagito reflects on the difference between meditation as something we do and meditation as a state that arises when we are no longer identified with the mind. He speaks about witnessing as the core of all meditation, and why practice often feels challenging, boring, or even confronting — especially for the mind that wants to stay in control.
The conversation explores active meditations such as Dynamic and Kundalini, and how movement, structure, expression, and stillness can help us meet emotions, release tension, and create a sense of inner safety. Rather than pushing toward bliss, meditation is described as a way of learning to allow both pleasure and discomfort — without suppression or avoidance.
Meditation is also placed in the context of therapy and working with people: how structure can support presence, why we often rush to comfort emotions, and how meditation helps us relate differently to difficulties by gradually learning to say “yes” to what is — without turning that into a demand or ideal.
This episode invites a way of relating to meditation as a lived practice — learning to witness, to stay present, and to allow both ease and difficulty as they arise. Svagito's recorded meditations based on The book of secrets by Osho is found here: https://online-teachings-with-svagito.mykajabi.com/offers/pBPhwFvW/checkout
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