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Guitarist, vocalist, songwriter and film director Ben Hozie of the Brooklyn-based indie rock band Bodega visits YMAAA to talk about Milk Dick’s 2014 album It Grows on You. Ben explains how he got acquainted with Milk Dick’s music and why It Grows on You has been his musical companion for more than a decade. He discusses how the band’s theatrical and sometimes serious side co-exists with the humor and silliness inherent to their musical style and band name. Ben also breaks down several of his favorite tracks from the album. He talks about the musical influences that informed Bodega’s new album All Inside Aquarium as well as discussing his ATM: At This Moment podcast and upcoming film Jack London Calling.

To learn more about Bodega or to check out their music, please visit their website and Bandcamp page, respectively at bodega-band.com and bodegabk.bandcamp.com.

You can also follow the band on Instagram and TikTok at @bodegabk and check out their videos at @bodegaNYC on YouTube.

To hear Ben’s interview with Milk Dick’s Mike Delaney on his ATM: At This Moment podcast, go to https://podcasts.apple.com/bw/podcast/s1-ep17-mike-delaney-cry-when-yr-young/id1759971591?i=1000678578548.

For information on Ben’s latest film project, Jack London Calling, and Pretorius Pictures generally, go to https://pretoriuspictures.tumblr.com/.

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1:28 Ben’s introduction

2:06 Ben explains why he chose It Grows on You for this episode

3:40 Ben and Al address the band’s name

4:43 Ben talks about first getting acquainted with Milk Dick through their live shows

5:20 Ben notes how Milk Dick combines their playful and serious sides

9:44 Ben talks about the theatrical nature of Milk Dick’s music, particularly on “Bathroom Door”

15:22 Ben provides some history on Milk Dick

18:03 Ben highlights “Grey Shapes” as one of his favorite songs on the album

19:50 Ben ponders the meaning of “My BF, Socrates”

21:34 Ben and Al talk about their reactions to “Rhythm Rock”

23:55 Is “Beach Needles (Coney)” in poor taste or ironic?

28:03 Ben reveals which track from It Grows on You is his favorite

30:40 Ben and Al discuss the brevity of the album’s songs

32:27 Ben talks about Delaney’s ability to confront his dark side

34:24 Ben addresses how It Grows on You has continued to be an important part of his life

35:37 Ben explains why he is a musical obsessive (or “cultural consumer”)

40:53 Ben shares which album he has listened to dozens of times this year

42:55 Al and Ben grapple with the definition of post-punk and how it applies to All Inside Aquarium

50:44 Ben talks about Bodega’s ‘60s and ‘90s inspirations

57:16 Ben elaborates on why All Inside Aquarium is so riffy

58:37 Ben explains why he started the ATM: At This Moment podcast

1:02:36 Ben talks about his upcoming film Jack London Calling

Outro music is from “Pick up the Check” by Bodega.

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Los Angeles-based Americana singer-songwriter Paula Fong joins Al to introduce him to Gillian Welch’s 1996 album Revival. Paula explores what made Revival instantly appealing to her, and she explains why it continues to be one of her favorite albums and an important influence on her own music. Paula also discusses her new album A Bird on the Wing and her collaboration with Nickel Creek guitarist Sean Watkins on her cover of “Turn! Turn! Turn!”.

For information on Paula’s music, upcoming live dates and more, visit her website paulafong.com. You can also follow her on Instagram and YouTube at @paulafongmusic.

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1:11 Paula’s introduction

2:19 Paula recalls how she first got acquainted with Revival

4:49 Paula explains why she was drawn to the sound of Revival right away

7:40 Paula and Al talk about the authenticity of Welch’s music

9:48 Al had to warm up to the album

10:47 Paula talks about a formative experience she had with Celtic folk music

13:32 Paula and Al talk about the importance of formative experiences in shaping musical tastes

15:18 Paula talks about what she finds particularly striking about the songs on Revival

19:52 Paula and Al have very different reactions to “Paper Wings”

22:42 Paula explains what separates Revival from the rest of Welch’s discography

24:22 Paula notes how influential David Rawlings’ guitar playing has been

25:44 Paula cites the ways in which Welch and Rawlings have influenced her music

30:01 Paula and Al get more clues that they have very different tastes

31:56 Paula and Al talk about the value of repeated listening

33:14 Paula explains how she wound up collaborating with Watkins on her cover of “Turn! Turn! Turn!”

37:46 Paula goes into how her version of “Turn! Turn! Turn!” got arranged

40:30 Paula explains the story behind “What Are We Running From”

44:49 Paula talks about her upcoming live dates

Outro music is from “Up and Out” by Paula Fong.

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For this episode, virtuoso drummer Cindy Blackman Santana chose her 2020 album Give the Drummer Some as the focus for this discussion, but she and Al branch out into a wide-ranging conversation about several of her albums. Cindy talks about why she decided to write and sing lyrics for Give the Drummer Some, and she highlights some of the album’s notable tracks. Cindy also discusses her 2010 Tony Williams tribute album Another Lifetime, her recently-released album Coherence and the upcoming self-titled release for the supergroup Power of 3 (with Orianthi and Rhonda Smith).

As Cindy mentions on the episode, she has several live dates with her band over the next few months. Here are the dates for her shows in Baltimore and New York. For more information, go to cindyblackmansantana.com.

Oct. 24-25, Keystone Corner, Baltimore, MD

Dec. 4-6, Blue Note NYC, New York, NY

For more information on Cindy’s recordings and shows, give her a follow on these platforms…

Instagram, TikTok: @cindyblackmansantana

Facebook: @cindyblackmandrummer

The Power of 3 is also on Instagram at @thepowerof3official

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1:24 Cindy’s introduction

2:23 Cindy explains why she wanted to talk about Give the Drummer Some

3:45 Cindy talks about the song that led to her making Give the Drummer Some with Narada Michael Walden

6:46 Cindy recalls how she took on the challenge of becoming a vocalist

9:14 Cindy discusses the songwriting process for Give the Drummer Some

15:44 Cindy highlights some of her favorite things about Give the Drummer Some

18:28 Cindy talks about the recording process for Give the Drummer Some

20:05 Cindy revisits her Tony Williams tribute album Another Lifetime

21:48 Cindy explains how her “suite” for “Coherence” came together

28:11 Cindy talks about the formation of the new supergroup The Power of 3

32:04 Cindy discusses the vinyl version of Coherence and her upcoming live dates

Outro music is from “Guitar Love” by Cindy Blackman Santana (feat. John McLaughlin and Carlos Santana).

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