016 - Death & Presence | Grieving What Was—and What Never Was

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016 - Death & Presence | Grieving What Was—and What Never Was

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Gary and Jon dive into the realities of grief: why presence deepens loss, how absence creates a different kind of pain, and the practical work of making moments that become our legacy. We discuss family dynamics, father figures, generational disconnect, and learning to be emotionally present—even when it takes effort. A compassionate, plain-spoken conversation about love, loss, and living fully. 🎙️🕯️

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