• EP 20 - Brian Holmgren, Retired Child Abuse Prosecutor - Prosecuting Abusive Head Trauma Cases
    Mar 11 2026

    Brian Holmgren is a retired career child abuse prosecutor who continues to consult, lecture and write on child abuse topics. He served as an Assistant District Attorney General with the Davidson County District Attorney General’s Office in Nashville, Tennessee for 15 years where he was the team leader of the child abuse unit. Previously he served as an Assistant District Attorney in Kenosha County, Wisconsin for ten years and directed their sensitive crimes unit. As a career prosecutor, Mr. Holmgren tried more than 300 jury trials and handled hundreds of child abuse cases.

    Mr. Holmgren’s interview is the third of our 5-episode series celebrating the NCSBS’ 25 years of working to keep babies safe through shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma (SBS/AHT) prevention education. This series brings in a parent of a victim of SBS/AHT, a doctor, medical examiner, attorney and long-time donor to discuss how the NCSBS has impacted SBS/AHT prevention in their respective arenas.

    In this episode, Mr. Holmgren discusses how his early career steered him toward child abuse cases and how these cases stuck with him and affected him throughout his career. Mr. Holmgren advises new attorneys to be studious in learning the science that may affect their cases and to invest in mentor relationships with doctors and professionals who can support their careers. Mr. Holmgren finishes by promoting prevention within the legal and investigative process and his belief that they may play a vital role in future prevention of abuse.

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    51 mins
  • EP 19 - Dr. Lori Frasier - Partnering with the NCSBS to Prevent Infant Abuse
    Feb 21 2026

    Dr. Lori Frasier started her career in pediatrics in the early 1980s graduating from the University of Utah School of Medicine and completing her residency at Seattle Children’s Hospital, called Children’s Orthopedics at the time Dr. Frasier served there. Dr. Frasier is board certified in both General Pediatrics and Child Abuse Pediatrics.

    Dr. Frasier’s interview is the second of our 5-episode series celebrating the NCSBS’ 25 years of working to keep babies safe through shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma (SBS/AHT) prevention education. This series brings in a parent of a victim of SBS/AHT, a doctor, medical examiner, attorney and long-time donor to discuss how the NCSBS has impacted SBS/AHT prevention in their respective arenas.

    In this episode, Dr. Frasier discusses the early years of working as one of the first child abuse pediatricians (CAP) and how her passion to help children brought her to the decision to take on the additional responsibilities of serving as a CAP. Dr. Frasier shares stories of how the NCSBS served a critical role in connecting CAPs and helped build a “family” of doctors, legal professionals, law enforcement professionals and prevention professionals who share the like-minded purpose to prevent child abuse.

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    33 mins
  • Ep 18 - Emily Bodily - Elijah's Story
    Feb 10 2026

    Emily Bodily is the mother of Elijah Fisher who was shaken and killed by his biological father just days before Christmas in 1997. His life and the ensuing aftermath of his death is the subject of the documentary Elijah’s Story, produced and distributed by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS) and formed the basis of the NCSBS’ hospital- and school-based shaken baby syndrome prevention programs during its early years.

    Emily’s interview begins our 5-episode series celebrating the NCSBS’ 25 years of working to keep babies safe through shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma (SBS/AHT) prevention education. This series brings in a parent of a victim of SBS/AHT, a doctor, medical examiner, attorney and long-time donor to discuss how the NCSBS has impacted SBS/AHT prevention in their respective arenas.

    In this episode, Emily recollects on the short life of her son Elijah, his fight to survive, the ensuing court case, and the enormous impact Elijah’s Story has had in the fight to prevent SBS/AHT. Emily’s interview includes details about her and Elijah’s life that you won’t find in the documentary including her struggle to handle Elijah’s abuse and eventual death, her feelings of empathy for Elijah’s father, Jason, who admitted to shaking and killing Elijah, and the impact of one moment with elementary school children that inspired her to get involved in SBS/AHT prevention.

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    44 mins
  • Ep 17 - Christine Baker - Preventing Shaken Baby Syndrome on a State-Wide Level in Washington State
    Apr 27 2023

    This final episode of our 8-part April Child Abuse Prevention series brings us a conversation with Christine Baker, program coordinator for Seattle Children’s Hospital’s Child Protection Advocacy and Outreach Program.

    Christine tells us that Seattle Children’s led a summit to address #ShakenBabySyndrome (SBS) prevention after seeing SBS cases triple during the recession in 2008. The summit resulted in a task force consisting of law enforcement, medical professionals and child protective services officials that ultimately chose the Period of #PURPLEcrying as the state prevention program.

    It took Christine and her team several years to build PURPLE into the state-wide program it was intended to be, requiring support in training and fidelity to ensure the program’s success. Christine feels the joy of success when she hears from new families who benefited from the Period of PURPLE Crying education they received and stays committed to prevention having worked with several families of victims of SBS/AHT in Washington state.

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    34 mins
  • Ep 16 - JoAnn Otten - Grandmother of Victim of SBS/AHT Fights for Law that Brings Public Child Abuse Regsitry to Utah
    Apr 25 2023

    JoAnn Otten is our guest in this 7th of 8 episodes of our special April Child Abuse Prevention series giving our listeners firsthand experiences into Shaken Baby Syndrome (SBS) cases. JoAnn Otten is the grandmother of Miley, who was shaken by her biological father when she was just 7 months old. JoAnn talks about her suspicion that Miley's father abused her after he initially told investigators that Miley had fallen off the couch. JoAnn describes the intense anger she felt toward Miley's father after confirming the abuse and how that anger consumed her for several years and led her into contacting her local representative in hopes of passing a law that would but child abusers behind bars for longer terms. JoAnn admits to feeling discouraged after her representative tried to re-focus her attention to child abuse prevention but discovering that prevention was the right path after she began working tirelessly to educate her community about SBS and shared Miley's story.

    JoAnn tells us about the spiritual awakening she felt that allowed her to forgive Miley's father for abusing Miley and shares how she first came upon the idea for Miley’s Law that would create a public state child abuse offender registry after finding a similar bill that passed in Indiana. She details how she and her community worked tirelessly to build support in the state legislature for Miley’s Law and the relief and joy that overwhelmed her when the bill passed into law by one vote. Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    32 mins
  • Ep 15 - Michelle Fishpaw - Raising a Survivor of Shaken Baby Syndrome to Adulthood and Independence
    Apr 20 2023

    In the 6th episode of our 8-part April Child Abuse Prevention series giving you first-hand perspectives into Shaken Baby Syndrome cases we introduce you to Michelle Fishpaw, mother of Claire who was shaken by her childcare provider when she was just 11 months old.

    Michelle takes us to the day Claire was shaken and the helpless feeling of uncertainty as Claire lay unconscious for 13 hours after she arrived at the hospital and spent 8 days under constant medical supervision. Michelle describes having to deal with the uncertainty of Claire's outcome even to the point where doctors had to prepare her with the news that Claire may not survive.

    Claire not only survived, but she thrived as her family threw their support around her. Michelle shares the inspiring story of how Claire endured an incredible amount of therapies throughout her life and overcame every obstacle on her way to finding independence and success after high school. And as Claire worked toward recovery, the Fishpaw family dedicated their time for Shaken Baby Syndrome (SBS) prevention including passing Claire’s Law in Ohio that brought SBS education to new families and tracked SBS cases. Michelle talks about writing the book, Claire’s Voice, that shares the genuine experiences of the Fishpaw family in their journey to ensure Claire’s recovery. What Michelle had initially intended to be a way for her to share the story in hopes of helping other families who may have gone through similar trauma, became an outlet that brought healing to her and her family. Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    30 mins
  • Ep 14 - Greg Williams - Reagan's Rescue, A Grandfather Negotiates the Grief Process after Losing First Granddaughter to SBS/AHT
    Apr 17 2023

    You’ll meet Greg Williams in Episode 14 of the NCSBS' Attention on Prevention #podcast and the 5th episode in our 8-part April Child Abuse Prevention series diving deep into #ShakenBabySyndrome (SBS). Greg is the grandfather of Reagan, who was shaken and killed by her mother’s boyfriend when Reagan was 2 ½ years old.

    Reagan was Greg’s first grandchild, and they shared a special bond, one that continues even after her passing. Greg takes us on his painful journey. From his suspecting that Reagan was being abused to the mismanaged investigation that resulted in a year before charges were even brought upon the perpetrator. Greg anguishes over the guilt he still feels about what he could have done and whether the family’s accepting a plea deal was the right thing to do.

    Greg chronicles his relationship with Reagan in the journal he started writing for her since her birth and talks about the outlet it provided when he decided to keep journaling for Reagan even after her death. He describes the healing his family felt after they started the charitable fund, Reagan’s Rescue, that helps to keep her memory alive by providing support for families and children in need as well as educating about the dangers of SBS. His journey through the grief process is something he hopes he can share with others who deal with the grief of losing a loved one, and he hopes his story helps families learn to treasure the time that they have together.

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    34 mins
  • Ep 13 - Leigh Bishop, Former Queens Assistant District Attorney - Litigating Abusive Head Trauma Cases
    Apr 13 2023

    This is the 4th episode of our 8-part April Child Abuse Prevention series providing access into Shaken Baby Syndrome cases from first-hand experiences. In this episode, we talk with Leigh Bishop, the former Assistant District Attorney and the Chief of the Child Fatality Unit at the Queens County District Attorney’s Office in New York. Leigh discusses her career prosecuting Abusive Head Trauma cases and how her getting out and thoroughly involved with the investigation from the very beginning played a big part of her being able to successfully prosecute cases of Abusive Head Trauma. Leigh describes how communicating with a multi-disciplinary team potentially comprised of first responders, law enforcement investigators, social services, medical staff and expert witnesses is critical to finding the truth when seeking justice for victims. Leigh takes us into the courtroom and explains her strategies in trying AHT cases and the difficulties of trying cases that rely heavily on medical evidence. Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

    Brought to you by the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome (NCSBS).

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    45 mins