• Ep 59: Interview w/ Jeff Browning | Legendary Ultramarathon Runner and Coach
    Jun 24 2026
    In this powerful conversation from the red rocks of Sedona at Camp Avalon, Amadon sits down with ultramarathon running legend Jeff “Bronco Billy” Browning (@.giddyupultra) With 26+ years in the sport, over 40 career ultra wins with over 30 of those at the 100-mile distance (second-most in the world), and a legacy of consistency few can match, Jeff shares the raw mindset, discipline, and heart required to thrive in the pain cave — and in life.From his Missouri farm roots to building a family while chasing podiums, Jeff opens up about:Mastering the mental game when your body is shutting down at 150+ milesThe power of gratitude, positivity, and reframing suffering as a giftStaying grounded in nature and rejecting the comfort-zone trap of modern lifeFatherhood, homeschooling, and raising resilient kids who do hard thingsAging powerfully at 55 — discipline, mobility, experience, and still competingExtreme ownership, good sportsmanship, and why you must “do the work”Legacy, eulogies, and dying with your boots onThis is more than an ultrarunning interview — it’s a masterclass in mental resilience, spiritual toughness, and living authentically in a world addicted to ease.Watch until the end for Jeff’s favorite quotes and wisdom on commitment that applies to every area of life.🔥 If you’re training for your first ultra, navigating life’s storms, or just want to build unbreakable mindset — this episode is for you.Timestamps0:00:00 – Intro & Welcome to Camp Avalon, Sedona0:04:10 – Jeff Browning’s background & the “Bronco Billy” nickname story0:09:50 – The mindset of resilience and entering the pain cave0:18:30 – Nature as an open-air temple, humility, and primal connection0:25:45 – Gratitude practice and shifting from negativity0:32:20 – Support crews, positive people, and choosing your team0:38:10 – Training for long races like Cocodona and consistency over decades0:45:50 – Character traits developed through ultra running0:52:30 – Family life, marriage commitment, and homeschooling1:02:15 – Politics, environmentalism, and protecting public lands1:10:40 – Teaching kids to do hard things and building resilience01:20:20 – Sportsmanship, giving “gifts” in races, and reframing setbacks01:28:50 – Aging gracefully at 55 and staying motivated01:37:30 – Discipline, commitment, and doing the work01:48:10 – Favorite quotes and inspiration01:55:45 – Legacy, eulogies, and dying with your boots on02:05:00 – Closing thoughts & outroFollow Jeff Browning: https://www.instagram.com/gobroncobillyGet Real or Die Trying is a free-form podcast about transformation, spiritual maturity, self-mastery, and getting real in a comfort-obsessed world. New episodes drop regularly — hit Subscribe and turn on notifications.Connect with Amadon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realordietryingWebsite: http://getrealordietrying.com
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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • Ep 58: Interview with Kristian Bell | Author, Coach, & Founder of ReTribalize Project
    Jun 2 2026

    In this episode, Amadon DellErba sits down with Kristian Bell (https://kristianbell.com/) author, coach, YouTuber, and founder of ReTribalize Project (https://www.retribalize.ai). Together on location in Sedona, they dive into a profound, raw conversation about the deep human need for tribe, the illusions of modern independence, and the grueling journey of initiation.Kristian shares his remarkable evolution: from a high school valedictorian, to dropping out of Ivy League university, and navigating public humiliation, homelessness, severe addiction, and profound heartbreak while living out of a van. They break down how these crucible moments birthed his latest venture, the Retribalize Project—an initiative aimed at using the internet to connect highly-aligned individuals and bring them together to form new co-living spaces, neighborhoods, and modern villages.Amadon and Kristian challenge the modern glorification of "rootlessness," unpacking what it truly means to step into kingship, cultivate discernment without judgment, and exit the "age of atomization" to build a real sense of family identity and spiritual myth.

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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Ep 57: Interview with Kevin Walton | Actor, Coach, & Transformational Specialist
    Mar 24 2026

    In this episode of the Get Real or Die Trying podcast, host Amadon DellErba sits down in the Sedona with actor, filmmaker, activist, and transformational specialist Kevin Walton (seen on BET and more) for a deep, raw, and expansive conversation on what it truly means to live from truth. Amadon and Kevin explore the pursuit of self-mastery, asking what it really means to “be real” as spiritual beings having a human experience. Kevin shares how he went from a curious kid having mystical experiences, to near-death encounters, plant medicine journeys, and ultimately developing his path and practice of Creatorhood: The Art of Living From Truth. Connect with Kevin Walton at https://linktr.ee/sourceradiance"Nothing You Do Matters, Unless What You Do Matters"

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Ep. 56: Interview with Brit Arthur | Founder, CEO, Designer, Author, & Eco-Activist
    Mar 3 2026

    In this episode of Get Real or Die Trying, host Amadon DellErba sits down with Brit Arthur—founder of http://AutoimmuneDiseaseAwareness.com, CEO and designer of BeachCandy Organics (the trailblazing organic swimwear brand), holistic healer, and creator of the Feast to Wellness Protocol—for a fierce, unfiltered confrontation with autoimmune disease and the toxic systems designed to keep us dependent and unwell. Filmed on-location at Avalon EcoVillage.

    Brit delivers her story without apology: decades of hidden suffering—asthma, acne, body odor, gut chaos, and escalating inflammation that exploded into spinal autoimmune disease at 34, complete with genetic markers and CRP levels screaming cancer territory. Doctors pushed lifelong steroid injections and heavy pharma; she endured a year of minimal gains before walking away in fury at a system that silences symptoms instead of healing roots. She plunged into gut biome research, Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, herbalism, detox protocols, and non-toxic truth—then committed fully to plant-based living, toxin elimination, and radical simplicity.The shift was explosive: joint pain and immobility dissolved in days. From needing help to turn doorknobs and being carried from bed, she climbed 8 grueling miles with a 60-pound pack months later. Her Feast to Wellness Protocol—165+ anti-inflammatory, medicinal recipes plus daily detox rituals—has now empowered over 30,000 people globally to claim symptom-free lives from every corner of the planet.Amadon and Brit tear into the heart of it:The medical and food industries that suppress rather than solve—pushing seed oils, ultra-processed garbage, mycotoxin-laden grains, GMOs, pork's toxin accumulation, and endless chemicals while ignoring root causes like glyphosate, plastics, and emotional baggageShattering hustle culture, plastic dependency, restaurant traps, and inflammatory poisons that quietly destroy usThe freedom of minimalism in India, authentic Ayurvedic immersion, copper-charged water, farmers market allegiance, and transforming every meal into medicineWhere spirituality collides with biology: how toxic thoughts, chronic judgment, fear, unresolved trauma, and victim attachment literally manifest disease—and why forgiveness, embracing discomfort, emotional alchemy, and genuine loving connection are essential for extreme, integrated healthThe urgent poisoning of our supply chain, the call for real outrage and collective rebellion, and why every choice—what we eat, wear, think, buy—is sacred resistance and stewardship of body, land, and futureThis isn't soft self-care—it's a battle cry to wake up, purge the poisons (physical, emotional, systemic), reject the "pill up and power through" deception, and seize vibrant, liberated living on your own fierce terms. If you're done suffering quietly, questioning the chemical matrix and quick-fix lies, or ready to turn pain into unbreakable purpose—this raw exchange will set you ablaze.

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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Ep. 55: Interview w/ Jonathan Buford - Nature Photographer, Author, Environmentalist, & Master Brewer
    Jan 24 2026

    In this episode of Get Real or Die Trying, host Amadon DellErba sits down with Jonathan Buford — wilderness photographer, master brewer, entrepreneur, and co‑founder of Arizona Wilderness Brewing Company — for a raw conversation about land, business, conservation, and what it really means to live in relationship with place.​Jonathan shares his journey from starting a small service business and homebrewing in his garage to building Arizona Wilderness into a nationally recognized, conservation‑minded brewery rooted in the desert landscapes of his home. Together, Amadon and Jonathan explore how the way we grow, make, and consume things mirrors our relationship to land and community — and why any meaningful “wilderness ethic” has to show up in our everyday choices, not just our weekend hikes.​This conversation dives into sacred commerce, storytelling through beer, the soul of the Sonoran Desert, localism, and the hard lessons of building a mission‑driven company in a profit‑driven culture. Jonathan speaks candidly about failure, risk, and humility, and about how photographing all of Arizona’s wilderness areas reshaped his understanding of public lands, responsibility, and what it means to belong to a place.Weaving together ecology, entrepreneurship, creativity, and cultural renewal, this episode reveals why protecting wild places is inseparable from how we do business and how we treat each other. It points to a future where beer, art, and stewardship are not separate lanes, but one path toward a more alive and attentive way of living.If you’re ready to rethink what “success” looks like, question extractive business models, and explore what real stewardship looks like on the ground in the American Southwest — this conversation will leave you challenged, inspired, and invited to take responsibility for your own corner of the world.#jonathanbuford #arizonawilderness #sacredcommerce #getrealordietrying

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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • Ep. 54: Interview w/ Ryland Engelhart - Co-Founder / Producer of "Kiss the Ground"
    Jan 9 2026

    In this groundbreaking episode of Get Real or Die Trying, host Amadon DellErba sits down with Ryland Engelhart — regenerative agriculture advocate, entrepreneur, filmmaker, and co-founder of Kiss the Ground — for a deeply honest conversation about soil, food systems, consciousness, and cultural transformation.Ryland shares his journey from building iconic plant-based hospitality brands like Cafe Gratitude and Gracias Madre to dedicating his life to regenerative agriculture, soil restoration, and planetary healing. Together, Amadon and Ryland explore how broken food systems reflect broken relationships — to land, to community, and to ourselves — and why regeneration must begin from the ground up, both literally and spiritually.This conversation dives into sacred commerce, soil as a living intelligence, decentralization, personal responsibility, and the illusion of top-down solutions. Ryland speaks candidly about the limits of ideology, the importance of humility in learning from nature, and how true change comes not from protest alone, but from participation and stewardship.Weaving together ecology, entrepreneurship, spirituality, fatherhood, and cultural renewal, this episode reveals why healing the soil may be inseparable from healing humanity — and why the future belongs to those willing to get their hands dirty.If you’re ready to rethink climate narratives, question extractive systems, and explore what real regeneration looks like in practice — this conversation will leave you grounded, inspired, and called to action. #rylandengelhart #sovereigntyranch #kisstheground

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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Ep. 53: Interview w/ Mollie Engelhart, Chef, Regenerative Farmer, Filmmaker, and Truth-Teller
    Dec 29 2025

    In this profound and paradigm-shifting episode of Get Real or Die Trying, host Amadon DellErba sits down at Sovereignty Ranch in Bandera, Texas with chef, regenerative farmer, author, & entrepreneur Mollie Engelhart ⁨ for a raw and uncompromising conversation about food, sovereignty, and what it really means to live in right relationship with nature.Mollie shares her journey from pioneering one of the most successful plant-based restaurant groups in the country to embracing regenerative farming, land stewardship, and food sovereignty — challenging dogma, identity, and tribal thinking along the way. Together, they dive into the psychology of belief, the weaponization of morality, the dangers of outsourcing authority, and why true sustainability starts with personal accountability, not ideology.This episode weaves together consciousness, ecology, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and spiritual awakening — revealing how food, fear, and freedom are far more connected than we’ve been led to believe.If you’re ready to question everything you’ve been taught about health, ethics, control systems, and what it means to be a sovereign human in a collapsing world — this conversation will stretch you in all the right ways.

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Ep. 52: Interview w/ Nattali Rize; Musician, Producer, & Social Activist
    Nov 26 2025

    In this episode, Amadon DellErba connects with musician and activist Nattali Rize for a raw conversation about what it means to live authentically. They discuss her revolutionary music, the importance of elevating the Divine Feminine, her activism for indigenous rights, and the journey of creating her powerful new album, "Liberate." Discover the artist who believes music is medicine and our generation holds the key to breaking old cycles.

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    21 mins