Today's episode gets real when Serenity and her guest, Ryan Long, tell their layoff stories. Serenity was laid off from a director's role in market research. Ryan was let go from a management role at a company that manufactured holiday lighting, a workplace he found surprisingly dreary when he first arrived. Besides the work stories, today's episode has a lot of firsts, including a guest appearance by one of Ryan's daughters and a blooper we really should have cut.

CHAPTERS
2:18 Let’s meet Ryan
8:55 What makes a creative
10:09 A codeword and a special guest
13:58 Being let go: It’s personal
14:40 Ryan’s story
19:14 Serenity’s story
26:37 What it feels like
35:16 Jobs & Identity
39:20 Do we stay too long?
50:27 We are making this
55:47 What will we do next?
1:13:02 It Worked for Me
1:17:35 It is Personal (refrain)

Links
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Books Mentioned
The Art of Nonconformity by Chris Guillebeau: https://geni.us/theartofnonconformity
Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin

I Do This for a Living is sponsored by H34 Contracting

I Do This For a Living is independently produced.

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