Dusty goes solo to challenge the belief that every available moment should be filled with productive work, arguing that in an age when AI can operate endlessly, leaders must intentionally create the stopping points that technology no longer provides. Drawing from a 10-day horseback trip through the Northern Canadian Rockies, he shares how an unexpected period of disconnection forced him to confront his own compulsion to keep producing, even when he had deliberately stepped away. What began as an opportunity to solve difficult problems became a powerful reminder that clarity often emerges when leaders stop actively pursuing it. Through research on sleep deprivation, creative breakthroughs, and the value of solitude, Dusty explains how unstructured time restores cognitive capacity, allows difficult problems to become clearer, and helps leaders notice the people and opportunities directly in front of them. He challenges listeners to protect a full day—or even a single hour—without an agenda, technology, or deliverables, creating space for reflection and presence. The central lesson is that rest isn't a reward for productive work; it's a prerequisite for the judgment and clarity that make great leadership possible.

Key Timestamps:

(00:00) - The Time We Get Back

(04:41) - Off the Grid

(10:10) - Clarity Comes First

(13:10) - Solitude Isn't Lonely

(14:28) - Give Yourself Protected Time

(16:09) - It Will Be Uncomfortable

(18:01) - Final Takeaway

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Modern Problems. Ancient Wisdom:

Ancient Intelligence explores the timeless principles that can help leaders better understand themselves, our world, and how we lead in the era of AI: https://ancientintelligencebook.com/

More of Leadership Unlocked:

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• (00:00) - You Can't Produce Your Way to Clarity
• (00:41) - The Time We Get Back
• (04:41) - Off the Grid
• (10:10) - Clarity Comes First
• (13:10) - Solitude Isn't Lonely
• (14:28) - Give Yourself Protected Time
• (16:09) - It Will Be Uncomfortable
• (18:01) - Final Takeaway

Dusty sits down with Mike Reilly, the longtime voice of Ironman, for an inspiring conversation about perseverance, recognition, and what it means to help others find their finish line. After calling nearly half a million athletes across the finish line at 215 Ironman races around the world, Mike shares the unexpected origin of the iconic words “You are an Ironman” and explains why he treated every finish as a one-on-one conversation rather than another name in a crowd. Together, he and Dusty explore how that same mindset translates to leadership, where authentic recognition, deep listening, and making the moment about someone else can have an impact that lasts for decades. Drawing from Mike’s book Finding Your Finish Line, they unpack the importance of taking responsibility for how you respond to life, continuing to move forward through adversity, and viewing a finish line not as an ending but as the foundation for whatever comes next. Mike also reflects on discovering endurance sports, learning to champion others, staying mentally, physically, spiritually, and emotionally engaged, and continuing to pursue new finish lines through family, relationships, writing, and speaking. Ultimately, the conversation reframes leadership as an opportunity to stand at the finish lines of other people’s journeys, recognise what they have accomplished, and give them the encouragement to keep moving forward.

Key Timestamps:

(01:18) – You Are an Ironman

(09:42) – One-on-One Leadership

(14:08) – Finding Your Finish Line

(23:14) – Starting at the Finish Line

(25:45) – Mike’s Origin Story

(31:22) – Lifting People Up

(35:51) – Mike’s Next Finish Line

(38:47) – Goal vs. Finish Line

(41:57) – Rapid-Fire Questions

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

Website: https://mikereilly.net/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike71reilly/

Mentions:

https://mikereilly.net/book

https://www.active.com/

https://www.challengedathletes.org/

Finding Your Finish Line by Mike Reilly

The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter

Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

Modern Problems. Ancient Wisdom:

Ancient Intelligence explores the timeless principles that can help leaders better understand themselves, our world, and how we lead in the era of AI: https://ancientintelligencebook.com/

More of Leadership Unlocked:

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• (00:00) - 81 - Mike Reilly
• (01:18) - You Are an Ironman
• (09:41) - One on One Leadership
• (14:08) - Finding Your Finish Line
• (23:14) - Starting at the Finish Line
• (31:25) - Lifting People Up
• (35:54) - Mike's Next Finish Line
• (38:50) - Goal vs Finish Line
• (41:58) - Rapid Fire Questions

Dusty sits down with Forrest for a practical conversation about scaling founder-led businesses, developing leaders, and building the systems that allow owners to finally get out of the middle of everything. Drawing from more than 25 years in operations and his experience with EOS, Forrest explains his “techability chart” framework for mapping an organisation’s technology stack, eliminating unnecessary duplication, identifying security risks, and uncovering opportunities for better integration and automation. He also reflects on the early mentor who deliberately gave him room to make mistakes, shaping his belief that leaders should create clear decision-making guardrails rather than demanding perfection. From there, Forrest explores the power of net weaving, why founders often become bottlenecks in the businesses they created, and how designing roles around the company’s future rather than its past can unlock the next stage of growth. Along the way, he shares lessons on coaching, delegation, planning, and why 80% can often be good enough when the outcome matters more than doing something exactly your way. Ultimately, the conversation is a reminder that scalable leadership comes from creating clarity, investing in people, and building systems that allow others to make decisions, grow, and succeed without everything flowing through the founder.

Key Timestamps:

(00:47) – What Is a Techability Chart?

(07:34) – How Forrest Got Started

(09:57) – Allowing People to Make Mistakes

(16:32) – Solution Selling

(19:09) – NetWeaving

(25:13) – Taking Time to Think

(28:35) – Challenges Faced by Founders

(35:38) – Mentorship and Coaching

(38:50) – Rapid-Fire Questions

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

Website: https://fractionatorhq.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/forrestkderr/

Mentions:

Who's Your Mike?: A No-Bullshit Guide to the People You'll Meet on Your Entrepreneurial Journey by Kurt Wilkin

The Science of Scaling: Grow Your Business Bigger and Faster Than You Think Possible by Dr. Benjamin Hardy & Blake Erickson

Modern Problems. Ancient Wisdom:

Ancient Intelligence explores the timeless principles that can help leaders better understand themselves, our world, and how we lead in the era of AI: https://ancientintelligencebook.com/

More of Leadership Unlocked:

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• (00:00) - 76 - Forrest Derr
• (01:00) - What is a Techability Chart?
• (07:34) - How Forrest Got Started
• (09:55) - Allowing People to Make Mistakes
• (16:29) - Solution Selling
• (19:07) - Netweaving
• (25:07) - Taking Time to Think
• (28:30) - Challenges Faced by Founders
• (35:32) - Mentorship & Coaching
• (38:43) - Rapid-Fire Questions

Dusty goes solo to confront the “qualification lie”—the belief that leaders need deep technical expertise to lead effectively in the age of AI. Drawing from his lifelong “magnificent obsession” with leadership, nearly three decades of experience, and his own hesitation to enter the AI conversation, he explains how treating AI assistants like people—providing clear roles, expectations, context, measurement, coaching, and feedback—revealed that AI is fundamentally a leadership opportunity. Dusty breaks down three lies that keep experienced leaders on the sidelines: that they aren't technical enough, their experience is outdated, or someone else is better positioned to lead. Through a practical “qualification inventory,” he challenges leaders to identify the judgment, discernment, trust, and wisdom they've already earned through difficult leadership experiences. The central message is simple: what you think disqualifies you may actually be the qualification. AI is the fulcrum, but leadership remains the lever.

Key Timestamps:

(00:00) – You Don’t Need to Be Technical to Lead AI

(02:39) – Am I Still Relevant?

(5:54) – Lead and Coach Your AI

(9:53) – Building AI Assistants

(12:45) – Three Lies Leaders Tell Themselves

(17:29) – Qualification Inventory

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Modern Problems. Ancient Wisdom:

Ancient Intelligence explores the timeless principles that can help leaders better understand themselves, our world, and how we lead in the era of AI: https://ancientintelligencebook.com/

More of Leadership Unlocked:

Check out our leadership development resources at https://arcqusgroup.com/

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• (00:00) - 79 - Why You Don't Need to Be Technical to Lead AI
• (02:38) - Am I Still Relevant?
• (05:53) - Lead & Coach Your AI
• (09:52) - Building AI Assistants
• (12:44) - 3 Lies Leaders Tell Themselves
• (17:28) - Qualification Inventory
• (22:36) - Conclusion

Dusty goes solo to explain why he shelved a finished leadership manuscript and started over with Ancient Intelligence, a book built around a realization he had spent more than a year resisting: leaders do not need to become technologists to succeed with AI—they need to become better leaders in an environment where work is being done differently. Sparked by a blunt conversation with his friend Alex, who challenged him to stop giving the topic the “Heisman” and recognize the value already emerging from his work with AI, Dusty argues that the business bookshelf is crowded with books answering “How do I use this?” while leaders are wrestling with much deeper questions about where AI belongs, how to lead it, and how to keep teams focused on outcomes rather than activity. He explains that AI has made competent work dramatically easier to produce, shifting the real value from the first 80% of an output into the final 20%—the judgment, discernment, context, wisdom, and expertise that experienced leaders have spent decades developing. That shift makes human leadership more valuable, not less. Dusty’s central insight is that leading AI requires the same capabilities as leading people: set expectations, provide context, define what great looks like, measure results, review the work, and coach toward improvement. Through a practical exercise of reviewing AI output as though it came from a team member, he challenges leaders to identify and codify the judgment they uniquely contribute. The result is an encouraging reframing of the AI era: good work may have become cheap, but hard-earned human wisdom has become increasingly scarce—and therefore increasingly valuable.

Key Timestamps:

(1:34) – The Book Missing from Our Shelves

(3:30) – Trade Winds, Not Hurricanes

(5:40) – Why This Book? Why Now?

(10:46) – The Brutal Truth

(12:51) – Good Work Is the Floor

(17:51) – Same Skills, New Tool

(19:00) – Work with AI as a Team Member

(23:14) – Ancient Intelligence Book

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

https://ancientintelligencebook.com

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• (00:00) - 78 - The Book I Threw Away
• (01:29) - The Book Missing from Our Shelves
• (03:24) - Trade Winds, Not Hurricanes
• (05:34) - Why this Book? Why Now?
• (10:40) - The Brutal Truth
• (12:45) - Good Work Is the Floor
• (17:44) - Same Skills, New Tool
• (18:54) - Work with AI as a Team Member
• (23:06) - Ancient Intelligence Book

Dusty goes solo to make the case that the leaders who thrive in the age of AI will not be the ones chasing every new tool, but the ones who apply timeless leadership principles with greater focus and intention. Prompted by a CEO’s candid fear that she may not be “good enough” in this new era, Dusty introduces the central argument behind his upcoming book, Ancient Intelligence: AI is the fulcrum, leadership is the lever, and leaders are the ones capable of moving the world. He exposes how unfocused AI adoption creates diffusion rather than progress, with organizations investing in licenses, pilots, and experimentation without defining the outcomes those investments are meant to produce. Drawing from his own tendency to chase “purple squirrels” inside AI tools, he explains why leaders need boundaries, charters, and predetermined definitions of success to keep extraordinary technological capability pointed at problems that actually matter. Dusty then identifies three hidden costs of unfocused AI leadership—poor return on invested capital, wasted return on invested time, and the opportunities organizations never discover because their leaders are either distracted by AI or too far removed from it to understand what has become possible. Through a practical three-column audit, he challenges leaders to measure what their AI investments have produced, identify where their time could create greater leadership leverage, and name new opportunities that technology now makes possible. The message is ultimately one of confidence rather than fear: AI has not made decades of leadership experience obsolete; it has made clarity, focus, alignment, judgment, and disciplined execution more urgent than ever.

Key Timestamps:

(4:33) – Consequences of Diffused AI Strategies

(7:04) – Stay on Course

(7:55) – You Don’t Need to Be on the Bleeding Edge

(13:55) – Human Leadership Is Focused

(15:32) – Three Costs of Unfocused Leadership

(21:53) – Leadership Cost Wearing a Tech Costume

(26:25) – Compounding Leadership Impact

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

https://ancientintelligencebook.com

Episode 62

Episode 66

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• (00:00) - Ancient Intelligence Book
• (04:33) - Consequences of Diffused AI Strategies
• (07:03) - Stay on Course
• (07:55) - You Don't Need to Be on the Bleeding Edge
• (13:55) - Human Leadership Is Focused
• (15:31) - 3 Costs of Unfocused Leadership
• (21:52) - Leadership Cost Wearing a Tech Costume
• (26:25) - Compounding Leadership Impact

Charlene Li joins Dusty to explore what decades of navigating disruption can teach leaders about the rapidly evolving age of AI. Drawing on her experience at Forrester, founding Altimeter, and advising executives through successive waves of technological change, Charlene argues that leaders should stop chasing every new AI tool and start with the problems they actually need to solve. She explains why AI fluency comes through practice rather than mastery, how leaders can overcome the competing forces of FOMO and FIGO (fear of getting involved), and why vision, strategy, judgment, openness, and human connection become even more important as technology accelerates. The conversation also examines Charlene's own leadership failures and lessons, including a painful layoff at Altimeter, and why honesty, fairness, confidence, curiosity, and the willingness to move forward without perfect information are essential during uncertainty. Ultimately, Charlene challenges leaders to see AI not simply as a tool for efficiency, but as an opportunity to unlock human potential, create possibilities that previously didn't exist, and lead disruptive change with greater courage and intention.

Key Timestamps:

(04:25) – Design Thinking Sales

(09:02) – Origin of Disruption

(13:25) – Altimeter Value Wedge

(15:34) – Open Leadership Culture

(19:43) – Three Questions for Leaders

(20:53) – AI Hesitancy Gap

(30:18) – FOMO vs. FOGI

(37:06) – AI Fluency Challenge

(47:01) – Leading Through AI Uncertainty

(51:45) – Rapid-Fire Wisdom

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

Website: https://charleneli.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleneli/

Substack: https://substack.com/@charleneli

Mentions:

Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success by Charlene Li and Dr. Katia Walsh

Groundswell: Winning in a World Transformed by Social Technologies by Charlene Li

Open Leadership: How Social Technology Can Transform the Way You Lead by Charlene Li

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

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Dusty challenges leaders to rethink the way they protect and use their time, arguing that time blocking is only the first step and that the real return comes from defining the outcome before the clock starts. He introduces the concept of outcome blocking—taking 60 seconds at the beginning of a meeting, work session, or calendar block to decide exactly what “done” looks like, how the work connects to what matters most, and who is responsible for making sure the target is actually hit. Drawing on Stephen Covey’s principle of “beginning with the end in mind,” Parkinson’s Law, and his experience working with leaders, Dusty explains why simply allocating more time or tightening your calendar cannot solve a problem that is really about undefined outcomes. He argues that AI has fundamentally changed the equation by removing the traditional ceiling of human capacity, meaning work can now expand far beyond the limits of a person’s available hours—making a clearly defined outcome the constraint leaders need more than ever. Through a practical four-step exercise and examples from leadership teams and a multi-unit operator, he shows how naming the goal, defining what must be true when the time is over, connecting the work to the most important priorities, and closing the loop can transform a calendar block from passive activity into intentional impact. The result is a shift from simply showing up for the time to showing up to create an outcome—and a simple 60-second discipline that compounds into sharper focus, greater productivity, and a higher return on invested time.

Key Timestamps:

(00:00) – Outcome Blocking

(02:09) – Decide What Done Looks Like

(06:00) – What Is the Goal?

(08:11) – You’re Done When the Goal Is Completed

(11:01) – How Does This Connect with My Broader Goals?

(13:03) – Who Decides When the Work Is Done?

(16:10) – Work Expands to Fill the Capacity Available

(18:15) – Calendar Activity

(20:12) – Take 60 Seconds to Define Intentions

Key Topics Discussed:

Leadership Unlocked, Leadership Insights, Dusty Holcomb, Servant Leadership Principles, Self-Leadership Strategies, Growth Mindset in Leadership, Integrity and Leadership, Leadership Development Resources, Effective Leadership Habits, Empowering Leadership Techniques, Senior Executive Insights, Leadership Quotes and Reflections, Leadership Podcast, Executive Coaching, CEO Podcast, Business Leadership, Leadership Growth, Leadership Journey, Stories From Leaders, Leadership Tools, High-Performing Teams, Leadership Mindset, Decision Making, Personal Growth, Leadership Coaching, Organizational Leadership

Mentions:

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey

Episode 27

Episode 39

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• (00:00) - Outcome Blocking
• (02:09) - Decide What Done Looks Like
• (06:00) - What Is the Goal?
• (08:11) - You're Done When the Goal Is Completed
• (11:00) - How Does this Connect with My Broader Goals?
• (13:02) - Who Decides When the Work is Done?
• (16:09) - Work Expands to Fill the Capacity Available
• (18:14) - Calendar Activity
• (20:11) - Take 60 Seconds to Define Intentions
• (23:17) - Conclusion