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Lion Counseling Podcast

Lion Counseling Podcast

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The Lion Counseling Podcast helps men escape the cages that hold them back and become the Lions they were created to be. It exists to help men obtain success, purpose, happiness, and peace in their career and personal lives. The podcast is hosted by the founder of Lion Counseling, Mark Odland (Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified EMDR Therapist), and Zack Carter (Counselor and Coach with Lion Counseling). In their podcasts, they address a variety of topics relevant to men, including: mental health, relationships, masculinity, faith, success, business, and self-improvement.© 2025 Lion Counseling Podcast Christianity Hygiene & Healthy Living Ministry & Evangelism Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Spirituality
Episodes
  • Is It Ever Okay to Lie to Someone You Love?
    Jul 21 2026

    🎙️ Episode 82: Is It Ever Okay to Lie to Someone You Love?

    Is it ever okay to lie if your intentions are good?

    What if your spouse tells the same story over and over again? Do you gently tell them they've already shared it... or pretend it's the first time because you love seeing their excitement?

    In this solo episode, Zack Carter explores a surprisingly difficult ethical and relational question inspired by a Reddit post. Along the way, he examines John Gottman's research on bids for connection, discusses Santa Claus, Disney characters, storytelling, and why honesty and love aren't always as simple as they seem.

    Ultimately, the conversation leads to a deeper question:

    What does the person you love actually want from you?

    Instead of assuming, perhaps the healthiest relationships are built by simply asking.
    In this episode, you'll learn:
    ✅ What John Gottman's "bids for connection" reveal about healthy marriages
    ✅ Why small moments of responsiveness matter more than most couples realize
    ✅ Whether kindness can ever justify dishonesty
    ✅ How situations like Santa Claus, Disney characters, and movies differ from deception in close relationships
    ✅ Why good intentions don't automatically create healthy relationship patterns
    ✅ A practical question every couple should ask before making assumptions about what their partner wants

    📞 Book a Clarity Call
    https://escapethecagenow.com/contact/

    📘 Get Mark's Free Book
    https://escapethecagenow.com/subscribe/

    📚 Mark's Books
    https://escapethecagenow.com/books/

    🦁 Lion Counseling
    https://escapethecagenow.com/

    💬 Comment below:
    Would you rather your spouse tell you that you've already shared a story... or let you tell it again because they enjoy seeing you light up? Where do you draw the line between kindness and honesty?

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    About the Lion Counseling Podcast
    The Lion Counseling Podcast helps high-performing men develop the clarity, resilience, and emotional strength needed to lead well at home, at work, and in life. Through conversations on psychology, relationships, leadership, trauma, faith, and personal growth, Mark Odland and Zack Carter help listeners escape unhealthy patterns and build lives of courage, purpose, and integrity.

    New episodes premiere every Tuesday.

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    8 mins
  • You’re Solving The Wrong Problem
    Jul 16 2026

    🎙️ You’re Solving The Wrong Problem | Leadership Under Pressure #81
    One of the most practical ideas Mark Odland heard at Echelon Front Muster was this:

    Clarity before depth.

    Before you go deep into solving a problem, you first have to be clear about what problem you are actually solving.

    It sounds obvious… but most high-performing men skip right past it.

    They feel pressure.
    They feel frustration.
    They feel failure.
    And they immediately move into action mode.

    But when a man misdiagnoses the problem, his strength becomes his weakness.
    He solves the wrong problem faster.

    In this episode of Leadership Under Pressure, Mark explores why so many successful men stay stuck—not because they lack discipline or intelligence, but because they are trying to solve the wrong issue.

    Mark breaks down:
    ✅ Why high-performing men often misdiagnose the real problem
    ✅ The hidden difference between discipline issues and deeper emotional patterns
    ✅ Why productivity systems cannot solve shame, trauma, anxiety, or avoidance
    ✅ How stress and nervous system activation distort self-assessment
    ✅ Why recurring relationship and leadership problems are often symptoms, not root causes
    ✅ The importance of slowing down enough to ask: “What is actually happening here?”
    ✅ Why clarity is often more important than intensity

    This episode is not about becoming passive or endlessly analyzing yourself.
    It’s about learning how to identify the real issue underneath the visible issue—so your effort actually leads somewhere.
    Because if you go deep into the wrong problem…
    you can work extremely hard and never truly move forward.

    🎙️ Book a Clarity Call with Mark:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/call/

    📘 Get Mark’s FREE book + join the newsletter:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/subscribe/

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.’
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    About Leadership Under Pressure:
    Leadership Under Pressure is a series from Lion Counseling exploring the hidden psychological layer of leadership, discipline, relationships, and performance. Mark Odland combines trauma-informed therapy, EMDR expertise, leadership principles, faith, and real-world experience to help high-performing men operate with greater clarity, steadiness, and freedom under pressure.

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    4 mins
  • Burnout or Depression? How to Tell the Difference (Most People Get This Wrong)
    Jul 14 2026

    🎙️ Episode 80: Burnout or Depression? How to Tell the Difference (Most People Get This Wrong)

    Many people say they're "burned out." But what if burnout isn't actually the whole story?
    In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Zack Carter analyzes a real-world example to explain the important differences between burnout and depression. While the two often overlap, they aren't the same—and understanding the difference can help you find the right path forward.

    In this episode we discuss:
    * The six major causes of burnout
    * How depression can look different from burnout
    * Signs that your struggles may be affecting more than just work
    * Practical ways to address burnout
    * When it's time to seek professional help
    * If you've been feeling exhausted, unmotivated, emotionally numb, or overwhelmed, this conversation may help you better understand what you're experiencing.

    📅 Book a Free Clarity Call:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/contact/

    📖 Free E-Book:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/subscribe/

    📚 Books & Resources:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/books/

    🌐 Lion Counseling:
    https://escapethecagenow.com/

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.’
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    Have you ever mistaken depression for burnout—or burnout for depression? Let us know your experience in the comments below.

    #Burnout #Depression #MentalHealth #Therapy #EMDR #Stress #SelfImprovement #MentalHealthAwareness #LionCounseling #Psychology

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    12 mins
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