Episodes

  • Episode 5: Jordan Carr
    Apr 8 2026
    "With digital transformation projects, the technology isn't necessarily the key in terms of getting success. It's definitely about the people...Ultimately, we all want to just do good things for our own customers. I think that's ultimately the goal: the human side is how we work as humans together, but it's how we work for humans, as well." In this episode, Material's Ben Mooney is joined by Jordan Capp, the head of digital experience at Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne. He leads digital transformation projects to help the university achieve its mission of delivering the "next gen" student experience — and Jordan, too, has transformed himself alongside the institution through working there for the past 14 years. Listen to Ben and Jordan's conversation to hear more about how Jordan has moved Swinburne from teams of experts executing to centers of expertise that help set guardrails and cross-functional, journey-based squads, how an exchange program to Japan shaped his emphasis on systems thinking and the "human side" of transformation — and how his young daughter helps him remember that change is inevitable and to embrace the chaos. Hosted by Ben Mooney — Managing Director, APAC at Material Having lived in multiple countries, led global teams, married and fathered three kids, change is something Ben knows all too well – which gives him the perfect background to explore the topic of change and its impacts around the world. In the Changemakers podcast, Ben, Material's Managing Director for Asia-Pacific, focuses on illuminating guests' stories, key moments and navigation points through their change journeys. An experienced interviewer, Ben previously hosted a series called The Business of Transformation. www.materialplus.io Featuring Jordan Capp — Head of Digital Experience, Swinburne University of Technology Jordan Capp is a digital marketing and customer experience leader specialising in marketing technology, data-driven customer engagement and digital transformation. As Head of Digital Experience at Swinburne University of Technology, Jordan leads the strategy and delivery of the university's digital marketing platforms, customer experience and optimisation capabilities across the student acquisition lifecycle. His work focuses on connecting data, marketing technology and operating models to enable personalised, scalable digital experiences that improve acquisition, engagement and conversion. Jordan has played a key role in Swinburne's enterprise digital transformation, including the implementation of Adobe Experience Cloud and the redesign of the university's digital experience platform. He is particularly interested in how organisations combine technology, data and human capability to deliver meaningful customer experiences at scale.
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    30 mins
  • Episode 4: Keira Tunnah
    Feb 4 2026
    "Let go of expectations and embrace unexpected outcomes" — that's the mantra Keira Tunnah has lived by, both in her personal life and in her career. From changing both state and city and having twins during Covid lockdown, to making the jump from banking to gaming, Keira's life has been constant change. And she wouldn't have had it any other way. Keira Tunnah, the former head of loyalty and customer experience at EB Games and now the manager of customer service performance and analytics at Suncorp Group, joins Material's Ben Mooney on this episode. In their conversation, Keira and Ben discuss how she has embraced disruption and learned to follow where it leads, how she taught herself about digital marketing and AI and integrated best practices of both into the highly regulated banking space – and the challenge of learning the ins and outs of Pokémon cards after years of studying foreign exchange products. Hosted by Ben Mooney — Managing Director, APAC at Material Having lived in multiple countries, led global teams, married and fathered three kids, change is something Ben knows all too well – which gives him the perfect background to explore the topic of change and its impacts around the world. In the Changemakers podcast, Ben, Material's Managing Director for Asia-Pacific, focuses on illuminating guests' stories, key moments and navigation points through their change journeys. An experienced interviewer, Ben previously hosted a series called The Business of Transformation. www.materialplus.io Featuring Keira Tunnah — Ex-Head of Loyalty & Customer Experience at EB Games Keira Tunnah is a marketing and CX specialist who loves turning data, creativity and real-world insight into meaningful customer experiences. Currently the Manager of Customer Service Performance & Analytics at Suncorp Group, Keira brings a rare blend of corporate discipline and fast-paced retail know-how to her work. Her professional journey spans more than a decade at NAB followed by her time as Head of Loyalty & Customer Experience at EB Games. Keira's known for her people-first approach, practical problem-solving, and her ability to translate complex data into experiences that genuinely resonate with customers. A Mum of four tiny humans, Keira embraces chaos in her personal and professional life and prides herself on being a "get things done" guru.
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    32 mins
  • Episode 3: Guillaume Papillon
    Jan 14 2026
    Over 17,000 kilometers from the small rural town he grew up in on the western coast of France, Guillaume Papillon found his home in Australia because it embodied the guiding philosophy of his life: always be open to new things, and never be satisfied. Joining Material's Ben Mooney on this episode is Guillaume Papillon, the head of marketing communications at Mable, the largest online platform in Australia designed to find independent support workers. In this conversation, Guillaume and Ben discuss how being a changemaker and being a challenger go hand-in-hand, how his previous experiences around the world in retail and tech inform his work at Mable and how his purpose-driven personality helps him put the individual first as Mable challenges the status quo of the care industry. Hosted by Ben Mooney — Managing Director, APAC at Material Having lived in multiple countries, led global teams, married and fathered three kids, change is something Ben knows all too well – which gives him the perfect background to explore the topic of change and its impacts around the world. In the Changemakers podcast, Ben, Material's Managing Director for Asia-Pacific, focuses on illuminating guests' stories, key moments and navigation points through their change journeys. An experienced interviewer, Ben previously hosted a series called The Business of Transformation. www.materialplus.io Featuring Guillaume Papillon — Head of Marketing Communications at Mable Guillaume (G) is the Head of Marketing & Communications at Mable, the online platform where people connect to provide and receive disability and aged care support their way. More than 25 million hours of support have been delivered through Mable over the last 11 years, enabling hundreds of thousands of people across Australia to live their kind of independence. In his role, Guillaume is accountable for brand strategy and experience, overseeing customer marketing and insights and developing an exceptional - and accessible - digital experience, as well as disrupting the traditional care & support category through data-led PR & communications initiatives. Guillaume has a wealth of experience in disrupting categories and building brands for online platforms, having previously worked as hipages' Head of Brand & Communications and having led CRM & Lifecycle efforts for global food-delivery platform Delivery Hero. Guillaume's experience also spans across international category-leading brands, such as Pernod Ricard's global wine brand portfolio and beauty retailer Sephora in the USA. Originally from France, Guillaume settled in Sydney in 2011 after completing his Master's Degree in Strategic PR from the University of Sydney. Guillaume is also a qualified wine expert, having successfully completed his WSET Diploma last year, an expert wine qualification only held by a few thousands people globally. He has since founded his wine-tasting side business, The Wine Apothecary.
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    38 mins
  • Episode 2: Patrick Condliffe
    Dec 9 2025
    From the pressure cooker of being a high-end chef, to shaping learning experiences in education, to driving customer growth and experience for Amaysim, one of Australia's leading telcos, Pat Condliffe is a master of reinvention. In this conversation with Material's Ben Mooney, Pat shares lessons learned from each iteration in his career — and how he now brings that experience and philosophy to getting the best out of the teams he manages. He talks about how he translated the process of self-reinvention into the process of reinventing amaysim's website, employing the same skills and nimbleness that helped guide him through his career. Listen to him articulate why the key to success is continued education and skill development — and stick around to hear him talk about how goats have helped him along in his journey. Hosted by Ben Mooney — Managing Director, APAC at Material Having lived in multiple countries, led global teams, married and fathered three kids, change is something Ben knows all too well – which gives him the perfect background to explore the topic of change and its impacts around the world. In the Changemakers podcast, Ben, Material's Managing Director for Asia-Pacific, focuses on illuminating guests' stories, key moments and navigation points through their change journeys. An experienced interviewer, Ben previously hosted a series called The Business of Transformation. www.materialplus.io Featuring Pat Condliffe — Digital Product Manager, Acquisition Mobile at amaysim Pat is a digital product leader who specialises in turning messy, high-friction journeys into simple, high-performing products. Drawing on an unconventional background as a chef, teacher and even a stint as a goat herder, Pat brings a grounded, human perspective to how digital experiences are designed and delivered. He's led cross-functional teams through complex transformations, always with a sharp focus on real customer outcomes over vanity metrics. A vocal advocate for practical, applied AI in product management, Pat brings a refreshingly honest, no-jargon perspective on how teams can ship faster, reduce risk and still care deeply about the humans on the other side of the screen.
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    38 mins
  • Episode 1: Katja Forbes
    Oct 15 2025
    Katja Forbes always says yes to adventure: "Let's try it once and see what happens." In this conversation with Material's Ben Mooney, Katja discusses how she's brought that attitude to her work with AI — how it grew from being an on-demand tutor to help her code in Python to a "thought partner" tool that amplifies her thinking and connections, and how she's now helping other CX leaders take advantage of AI's potential while navigating heavily regulated spaces like banking and financial services. Katja and Ben also talk about the rise of machine customers and how organizations need to build the infrastructure to bridge human and machine interactions if they want to be successful in the new age of AI. Hosted by Ben Mooney — Managing Director, APAC at Material Having lived in multiple countries, led global teams, married and become a father of three kids, change is something Ben knows all too well, giving him the perfect background to explore the topic of change and its impacts around the world. Ben is personal yet practical in his interview approach, exploring guests' stories, key moments and navigation points through their change journeys. An experienced interviewer, Ben previously hosted a series called The Business of Transformation. www.materialplus.io Featuring Katja Forbes — Head of Client Experience, Insights and Development at Standard Chartered Katja Forbes is a fearless CX innovator and award-winning leader who consistently challenges the boundaries of customer experience and AI. Named one of Westpac/AFR's "100 Women of Influence" and ranked among CX Network's Top 20 CX Leaders in AI and Financial Services, she boldly transforms traditional corporate cultures into dynamic, client-centric powerhouses. As an Executive Director at a Global Financial Services firm, Katja expertly blends human-centered design with cutting-edge technology, establishing her organization as a global thought leader. An outspoken advocate for women in leadership, her compelling voice, sharp insights and magnetic on-camera presence make her an industry standout. Her new book, Machine Customers: The Evolution Has Begun, will be published in November 2025. www.katjaforbes.com
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    28 mins