In this episode of Modern Marketing and Measurement, I talk with Phil Case, President and Chief Client Officer of Max Connect Marketing, about cutting wasted ad spend and focusing on what actually drives results. We get into how AI is speeding up decisions without replacing human judgment, why measurement still isn’t perfect, and how brands can balance short-term performance with long-term growth.

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On this episode, I sit down with Jeff Matisoff, North America CEO & Managing Partner at The Brandtech Group, to talk about how AI is reshaping everything from MMM to creative and media. We get into what real-time, scenario-based measurement actually looks like, why conversational data is changing how teams work, and how keeping a clear North Star—and a strong human point of view—matters more than ever as the tools get smarter.

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Today I sit down with Steve Filler, UK Country Manager at ShowHeroes, to unpack one of the most talked-about shifts in advertising right now—attention as a metric, and where it falls short. We get into why attention is really about opportunity, not outcomes, and how pairing it with brand lift and creative strategy is what actually drives results. Steve also shares how CTV is evolving, what’s holding back real-time optimization, and why smarter creative variation—not just better placement—is the next big unlock for marketers.

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