• Episode 38: Navigating Depression in Middle Schoolers
    Feb 19 2026

    Episode 38: Navigating Depression in Middle Schoolers

    Summary

    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman and pediatrician Dr. Gretchen Hoyle discuss the complexities of depression in middle schoolers. They explore the pivotal changes that occur during this age, the symptoms of depression that may manifest differently than expected, and the importance of early intervention. The conversation also covers the assessment tools used to diagnose depression, the role of ADHD, and the various treatment options available, including therapy and medication. Dr. Hoyle emphasizes that depression is common and treatable, urging parents to take concerns seriously and seek help when needed.

    Takeaways

    • Middle school is a critical time for mental health.
    • Depression symptoms can include irritability and withdrawal.
    • Academic pressures can exacerbate feelings of depression.
    • Early intervention is key to changing a child's trajectory.
    • Depression in middle schoolers is often misdiagnosed as typical moodiness.
    • Anxiety frequently coexists with depression in this age group.
    • Assessment tools help in diagnosing depression accurately.
    • Therapy can be very effective for middle schoolers.
    • ADHD can complicate the management of depression.
    • Parents should be proactive in seeking help for their children.


    Sound Bites

    "Middle school is really a pivotal time."
    "Loss of motivation is concerning."
    "Measurement-based care is essential."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Depression in Middle Schoolers
    00:53 Understanding the Importance of Middle School
    02:14 Prevalence and Symptoms of Depression
    05:44 Differences in Depression Across Age Groups
    08:39 Assessing Depression in Middle Schoolers
    14:53 Treatment Approaches for Depression
    18:19 The Role of ADHD in Depression
    24:29 Key Takeaways for Parents


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    26 mins
  • Episode 37: The Overlooked Epidemic: Depression in Young Children
    Feb 11 2026

    Episode 37: The Overlooked Epidemic: Depression in Young Children

    Summary

    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman and pediatrician Dr. Gretchen Hoyle discuss the often-overlooked issue of depression in elementary-aged children. They explore why depression is frequently missed in this age group, the diagnostic criteria for major and persistent depressive disorders, and the importance of assessing for anxiety alongside depression. The conversation also covers the tools used for assessment, the significance of a comprehensive evaluation, and the treatment options available for young children experiencing depression.


    Takeaways

    • Depression in young children is often overlooked and misunderstood.
    • Young children may express distress through behavior rather than language.
    • Symptoms of depression can be mistaken for behavior problems.
    • Major depressive disorder is episodic, while persistent depressive disorder is chronic.
    • 1-2% of elementary-aged children meet the criteria for depression.
    • Anxiety often presents before depression in young children.
    • Assessment for anxiety and depression should be done together.
    • Structured questionnaires are used for assessing anxiety and depression.
    • Comprehensive evaluations are crucial for accurate diagnosis.
    • Understanding the biopsychosocial framework aids in treatment planning.

    Sound bites

    "Depression in young children is often overlooked."
    "Symptoms often get labeled as behavior problems."
    "We assess for both anxiety and depression together."


    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding Depression in Young Children
    09:17 Assessment and Diagnosis of Depression
    11:48 Treatment Options for Pediatric Depression

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    19 mins
  • Episode 36 - Building Resilience in Teens and Parents with Dr. Kate Lund
    Feb 6 2026

    Episode 36 - Building Resilience in Teens and Parents with Dr. Kate Lund

    We apologize for the audio distortion caused by internet connectivity issues due to ice storms in the Southeastern U.S.

    Summary


    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman speaks with Dr. Kate Lund about the critical importance of resilience for both parents and teenagers. They explore how resilience is not just about toughness but involves flexibility, awareness, and the ability to recover from life's challenges. Dr. Lund shares insights from her book, 'Step Away,' emphasizing the need for parents to model resilience and manage their own stress to effectively support their children. The conversation also addresses the pressures teens face today, the impact of technology on their mental health, and practical strategies for families to build resilience together.

    Takeaways


    Resilience is about integrating coping strategies into daily life.

    Parents must model resilience for their children.

    High expectations and social media contribute to teen stress.

    Understanding individual needs is key to resilience.

    Parent resilience is crucial for family well-being.

    Self-awareness helps parents optimize their well-being.

    Regular practices can help manage stress responses.

    Technology overload affects focus and calmness.

    Recognizing signs of distress in teens is essential.

    Hope lies in helping teens harness their strengths.

    Titles


    Building Resilience in Families

    The Power of Resilience for Parents and Teens

    Sound bites


    "We're being barraged by so much."

    "Resilience is more of a lifestyle."

    "It's a balancing act for parents."

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    18 mins
  • Episode 35: Dyslexia, Part Two
    Jan 24 2026

    Summary


    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman continues the discussion on dyslexia with Dr. Gretchen Hoyle, focusing on actionable strategies for parents after a diagnosis. The conversation emphasizes that simply increasing reading practice is not sufficient; instead, it is crucial to address the underlying decoding pathways in a child's brain. Dr. Hoyle uses a swimming metaphor to illustrate that practicing with incorrect techniques can reinforce ineffective pathways, akin to running on a sprained ankle. The episode introduces the concept of structured literacy, particularly the Orton-Gillingham method, which is designed to explicitly teach reading through a systematic approach that includes explicit instruction, sequential learning, cumulative reinforcement, and multisensory engagement.


    Dr. Hoyle elaborates on the four key principles of the Orton-Gillingham method, explaining how each principle supports children with dyslexia in building a strong foundation for reading. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced in public schools regarding the implementation of structured literacy programs due to funding and resource limitations. The episode concludes with insights on the importance of collaborative care in managing dyslexia, emphasizing that with the right support and instruction, children can thrive despite their challenges.

    Takeaways


    • Effort alone doesn't fix the underlying problem.
    • Structured literacy explicitly teaches how language works.
    • The Orton-Gillingham method is effective for dyslexia.
    • Children with dyslexia need granular instruction.
    • Multisensory approaches strengthen neural connections.

      Sound bites

      "Effort alone doesn't fix the underlying problem."
      "Structured literacy explicitly teaches how language works."
      "Engaging the whole brain is crucial."



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    27 mins
  • Episode 34: Dyslexia, Part One
    Jan 22 2026

    Episode 34: Dyslexia, Part One

    Summary


    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman and pediatrician Dr. Gretchen Hoyle delve into the complexities of dyslexia, a learning disability that affects many children but is often misunderstood. Dr. Hoyle provides a comprehensive definition of dyslexia, emphasizing that it is not related to intelligence or effort but rather a difference in how the brain processes written language. She explains that dyslexia manifests in various ways at different ages, from preschool through high school, highlighting the emotional and behavioral challenges children face as they struggle with reading and writing tasks.


    The conversation also touches on the overlap between dyslexia and ADHD, as both can present similar symptoms, making diagnosis challenging. Dr. Hoyle discusses the importance of formal evaluations and the role of family history in understanding dyslexia. She shares insights on how parents can recognize signs of dyslexia in their children and the significance of early intervention. The episode sets the stage for a follow-up discussion on effective management strategies and educational support for children diagnosed with dyslexia.

    Takeaways


    • Dyslexia is an unexpected difficulty with reading.
    • It's not about intelligence or effort; it's about brain processing.
    • Dyslexia often runs in families, indicating a genetic component.


    Sound bites


    "Dyslexia is an unexpected difficulty with reading."

    "It's not clicking for the kid."

    "We ask the kids to read nonsense words."

    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Dyslexia

    01:03 Defining Dyslexia

    03:09 Signs of Dyslexia in Early Childhood

    08:18 Behavioral Challenges and Emotional Responses

    10:02 Family History and Genetic Links

    12:12 Diagnostic Approaches and Testing

    15:28 Overlap Between Dyslexia and ADHD

    17:31 Formal Diagnosis of Dyslexia

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    24 mins
  • Episode 33: You're On Fire, It's Fine with Katie K. May
    Jan 15 2026

    Summary

    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, therapist and author Katie K. May discusses the complexities of parenting highly emotional teenagers. She shares insights from her book, 'You're On Fire, It's Fine,' emphasizing the importance of understanding teen emotions, the concept of 'fire-feelers,' and the necessity of radical acceptance. The conversation explores common parental challenges, the impact of validation, and the significance of natural consequences over punitive measures. Katie provides practical strategies for preventing emotional escalation and rebuilding trust with teens, ultimately offering hope for meaningful change in the parent-teen relationship. Note: In the interview, host misidentifies the title of the book, which is "You're On Fire, It's Fine."

    Takeaways


    • Parents often lack the skills to support emotional teens.
    • Understanding behaviors as solutions, not just problems, is crucial.
    • Fire-feelers experience emotions intensely and need different approaches.
    • Counterproductive responses can invalidate a teen's feelings.
    • Radical acceptance helps parents cope with their reality.
    • Acceptance does not mean approval of all behaviors.
    • Recognizing early signs of emotional escalation is key.
    • Natural consequences teach valuable lessons more than punishment.
    • Self-destructive behaviors are often coping mechanisms for pain.
    • Emotional dysregulation can improve with time and effort.

    Sound bites


    "Emotions can be like a wildfire."

    "Parents go first."

    "You're On Fire, You're Okay"

    Chapters


    00:00 Navigating the Emotional Landscape of Teens

    02:01 Understanding Parental Challenges

    04:39 The Concept of Fire-Feelers

    06:25 Counterproductive Responses from Parents

    08:29 Radical Acceptance in Parenting

    10:16 The Importance of Acceptance vs. Approval

    12:33 Preventing Emotional Escalation

    14:38 Teaching Lessons vs. Natural Consequences

    16:22 Understanding Self-Destructive Behaviors

    20:21 The Hope of Change

    22:05 The Role of Environment in Emotional Dysregulation

    24:46 The Power of Validation

    26:48 Embracing Good Enough Parenting

    28:00 Rebuilding Trust and Connection

    30:40 Final Thoughts for Parents

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    25 mins
  • Episode 32 - ADHD and Anxiety, Part 2
    Jan 7 2026

    Summary


    In this episode of the Nimble Youth Podcast, host Matt Butterman and pediatric mental health expert Dr. Gretchen Hoyle delve into the complexities of ADHD and anxiety in children and teens. They discuss the prevalence of these overlapping conditions, the effects of medications on each other, and the importance of addressing both issues simultaneously. The conversation highlights the risks of untreated ADHD and anxiety, the challenges parents face in seeking treatment, and the need for a balanced approach to medication. Ultimately, the episode aims to provide hope and guidance for parents navigating these difficult topics.

    Takeaways


    • About 40% of kids with ADHD also have anxiety.
    • Treating ADHD without addressing anxiety can worsen anxiety symptoms.
    • SSRIs can sometimes activate ADHD symptoms in children.
    • Monotherapy may not be effective for kids with both ADHD and anxiety.
    • Parents often find it easier to treat ADHD than anxiety.
    • There is a stigma around using medication for anxiety in children.
    • Managing anxiety is crucial; you can't just grit through it.
    • Untreated ADHD can lead to significant academic and social issues.
    • There is a higher risk of substance abuse with untreated ADHD.
    • Early intervention can significantly improve outcomes for children.

    Titles


    Navigating ADHD and Anxiety in Youth

    The Interplay of ADHD and Anxiety Medications

    Sound bites


    "Sometimes SSRIs can activate ADHD symptoms."

    "Monotherapy doesn't always work for ADHD and anxiety."

    "Hopeful takeaways for parents feeling overwhelmed."

    Chapters


    00:00 Understanding ADHD and Anxiety Overlap

    02:08 The Impact of Medications on ADHD and Anxiety

    07:58 Monotherapy vs. Combination Therapy

    09:39 Parental Perspectives on Treating ADHD and Anxiety

    17:35 Risks of Untreated ADHD and Anxiety



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    18 mins
  • Episode 31 – Homebound and Healing: Parenting Through Autism and Addiction
    Dec 17 2025

    Summary


    In this episode of Nimble Youth, host Matt Butterman speaks with Jamie Hrobar, a mother of two autistic children and a woman in recovery from alcoholism. They discuss the challenges of parenting children on the autism spectrum, the impact of addiction on family life, and the importance of community support. Jamie shares her journey through early diagnoses, the struggles with severe autism, and the fight for necessary services. She emphasizes the need for advocacy, understanding, and the power of hope in navigating these challenges.

    Takeaways

    • Parenting a child with autism is incredibly challenging.
    • Both of Jamie's children have taught her invaluable life lessons.
    • Early diagnosis can significantly impact the support a child receives.
    • The reality of severe autism includes significant behavioral challenges.
    • Addiction can complicate parenting, but recovery is possible.
    • Finding a higher power can provide strength in difficult times.
    • Navigating the system for autism services is often a battle.
    • Building a community of support is crucial for families.
    • New parents should educate themselves about their child's rights.
    • Resources for families with severe autism are critically lacking.


    Titles

    • Navigating the Challenges of Autism Parenting
    • The Journey of a Mother in Recovery

    Sound bites


    "I see you and I understand."

    "You are not alone."

    "We need more resources."

    Chapters


    00:00 Navigating Autism and Family Life

    06:03 Early Diagnosis and Its Impact

    12:28 Struggles with Addiction and Recovery

    18:49 Finding a Higher Power in Recovery

    25:40 Navigating the Autism Service System

    32:17 Practical Steps for New Parents

    36:14 Building Community and Sharing Stories

    40:12 Messages of Hope for Parents

    45:37 Advocating for Better Resources

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    45 mins