Leaders don’t burn out from lack of effort - they burn out from grinding the wrong behaviors.

Hosts Cathy Maday and Ivan Konermann break down what Scott Brady, Regional VP at Siemens, did differently: shifting from lagging key performance indicators to Key Behavior Indicators (KBIs) to improve leadership performance, accountability, and feedback without burnout.

You’ll learn why doubling down on effort increases stress, how to define externally observable behavior, and how to coach performance management in a way top performers actually want.

This episode features key insights on leadership, KBIs vs KPIs, and sustainable high performance from Siemens Smart Infrastructure Buildings with Wingspan Performance.

If you enjoyed this episode's content, be sure to listen to our October 28th episode featuring Scott Brady, Regional VP at Siemens, for his full conversation with Cathy Maday.

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