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Opening AI for Language Learning

Opening AI for Language Learning

Written by: Mathias Schulze Philip Hubbard
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Aimed at language educators seeking clarity, practical insights, and critical reflections in the rapidly changing AI landscape, the Opening AI for Language Learning (OAILL) podcast explores the evolving intersection of linguistics, pedagogy, and AI in language teaching and learning. Initiated by the Language and Applied Research Center at San Diego State University (SDSU-LARC), it features hosts Mat Schulze, Professor of German and Director of SDSU-LARC, and Phil Hubbard, Senior Lecturer Emeritus at the Stanford University Language Center, longtime colleagues with decades of experience in technology for language education. In place of the all-too-common hype surrounding AI, they offer conversations in which they and occasional guests share their research and practice-informed perspectives, commentaries on others’ work, and their own professional and personal AI experiences.

We are grateful for the support for Opening AI for Language Learning by the Language and Applied Research Center at San Diego State University and the Southern Area International Languages Network – SAILN – which is part of the California World Languages Project.

Our producer and editor is Chris Brown. Mari Ocando Finol is the production coordinator of OAILL. Our music was composed by Tillmann Spiegl. Live conversations are moderated and the podcast is promoted by Shahnaz Ahmadeian. Evan Rubin is our publicist.

Episodes drop on Tuesday every 2 weeks.

And remember: Artificial intelligence is no substitute for natural ignorance.

Links:

Phil Hubbard: https://web.stanford.edu/~efs/phil/

Mat Schulze: https://pantarhei.press/mat/

The PantaRhei.press blog about OAILL: https://pantarhei.press/oaill/

The SAILN website about OAILL: https://larc.sdsu.edu/sailn/oaill

Schulze & Hubbard, 2026
Episodes
  • 016 Good (Slow) AI is excellent
    Oct 13 2026

    When should you use AI, and when should you leave it alone? In today’s episode, we dig into the central question of Sam Illingworth’s Slow AI, exploring what it means to move beyond AI tools and techniques and toward using AI in ways that are genuinely worthwhile.

    Considering a variety of language teaching practices and processes—from adapting texts to different reading levels to creating lesson plans or grading student work—Mat and Phil discuss the importance of judging when a task can truly benefit from AI and when AI removes something valuable, whether it’s human judgment, or processes that are themselves essential to learning.

    In this episode:

    Sam Illingworth’s Slow AI: Knowing When to Use AI and When to Leave It Alone https://samillingworth.com/book

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    26 mins
  • Teaching with AI: 2 times 3 takeaways
    Sep 29 2026

    Mat and Phil look back to look forward: What can the history of language teaching teach us about its future with AI? If generative AI represents something fundamentally new, does responding to it require leaving behind what language educators already know?

    Drawing on Mat’s forthcoming chapter on language teacher education before generative AI, our hosts reflect on what established knowledge about language, learning, and pedagogy can contribute to the decisions educators are making about AI today. How does AI challenge existing practices in teaching and assessment? What does it mean for the importance of language awareness? And, perhaps most importantly, how can educators decide when to rely on technology and when to rely on human expertise?

    Making the case for treating generative AI as genuinely new without leaving behind what we already know, the conversation highlights the linguistic, pedagogical, and human foundations that can help (teacher) educators navigate what comes next.

    In this episode:

    Mat is blogging about his chapter for the Cambridge Handbook of Artificial Intelligence and Language Teacher Education. Go to https://PantaRhei.press and search for the posts with “Beyond AI” in the title.

    Hubbard, Philip and Mathias Schulze (2025) AI and the future of language teaching – Motivating sustained integrated professional development (SIPD). International Journal of Computer Assisted Language Learning and Teaching 15.1., 1–17. DOI:10.4018/IJCALLT.378304 https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304

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    30 mins
  • What's next, AI? In teacher education
    Sep 15 2026

    How can language teachers keep up with AI when the technology itself keeps changing? And how can teacher educators prepare future teachers for a landscape that may look very different just a few years from now?

    Drawing on Phil’s forthcoming chapter on Sustained Integrated Professional Development, Mat and Phil explore whether learning about AI needs to become an ongoing part of teacher educators’ professional practice.

    Do teacher educators need to be AI experts before they can prepare future teachers? What can educators learn by experimenting with AI themselves? In this episode, our hosts make the case for approaching AI not as something educators can learn once and master, but as an evolving area of professional learning—one that teachers and teacher educators can navigate together, from experiencing AI as a language learner and collaborating with colleagues to setting manageable goals, experimenting with new tools, and reflecting on successes and failures.

    In this episode:

    Contact Phil by email, if you would like to read a draft version of this chapter for the Cambridge Handbook of Artificial Intelligence and Language Teacher Education. (efs@stanford.edu)

    Hubbard, Philip and Mathias Schulze (2025) AI and the future of language teaching – Motivating sustained integrated professional development (SIPD). International Journal of Computer Assisted Language Learning and Teaching 15.1., 1–17. DOI:10.4018/IJCALLT.378304 https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304

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    30 mins
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