Program directorship is often framed as an administrative role or temporary leadership assignment. Less often is it examined as a structurally vulnerable position, balancing the needs of residents, faculty, institutions, and accreditation requirements.

In this episode of PDs@SEA, Dr. Marianne Chen and Dr. Bryan Mahoney reflect on the candid “Everything You Wanted to Know” session from the SAAAPM annual meeting, surfacing experiences program directors across the country rarely articulate publicly. The conversation opens with a striking finding: only a small minority of program directors anticipate staying in the role beyond six years, prompting discussion about burnout, identity, and the hidden labor of residency leadership.

The discussion explores how artificial intelligence is entering PD workflows, from letters of recommendation and promotion reviews to early scheduling experiments, alongside a clear-eyed assessment of where automation helps and where human judgment remains essential. Recruitment practices are also examined, including signaling, interview volume, second looks, and the tension between efficiency, equity, and applicant experience.

These themes are grounded in the daily realities of program leadership: evaluations, duty hours, follow-ups, and persistent administrative load. Practical strategies emerge around organization, delegation, habit formation, and boundary-setting, as well as how perspective shifts with experience.

The episode closes by asking whether the growing competitiveness of anesthesiology will translate into a sustainable pipeline of future leaders, and what institutions must do to support those entrusted with raising the next generation professionally.

Key Takeaways From This Episode

• Program director burnout is largely structural, driven by the role’s position between residents, faculty, institutions, and accreditation requirements.
• Short PD tenures signal sustainability challenges that cannot be solved through individual resilience alone.
• AI is beginning to reduce administrative burden for PDs, but only when paired with deliberate human oversight.
• Recruitment mechanisms such as signaling and second looks improve efficiency while introducing new equity tradeoffs.
• Administrative overload remains a central stressor and requires systems-level solutions, not incremental fixes.
• Sustainable PD leadership depends on habits, delegation, and boundaries rather than constant availability.
• Program directors shape the future of the specialty by “raising residents professionally,” extending their impact beyond individual programs.

Especially Useful For

Program directors, associate program directors, residency leadership teams, department chairs, and clinician-educators focused on the sustainability of graduate medical education leadership.

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• Why Residency Leadership Is Burning Out (And Why It Still Matters)
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• Passing the Torch: How a Residency Survives (and Grows) Through Leadership Change
  Explores leadership transitions, continuity, and what departments can do to protect programs during periods of PD turnover.

This episode marks a major milestone for PDs @ SEA. We celebrate our tenth episode and welcome our new co-host, Dr. Marianne Chen, Residency Program Director at Stanford. Marianne joins host Dr. Bryan Mahoney to talk about leadership transitions, the realities of running a residency, and how signaling and recent ERAS changes are reshaping recruitment across anesthesiology.

Together, they compare early data, share how signaling is affecting the depth and fairness of application review, and reflect on the role of team-based recruitment. They also discuss the value and limits of the new applicant essay prompts and how programs interpret gold and silver tier signals differently.

This conversation offers practical insight for program directors, faculty, clerkship directors, and educators navigating this year’s recruitment season. It also highlights the shared commitment across programs to support trainees and build strong, inclusive learning environments.

This episode was recorded, produced, edited and published by Larry Chu, MD and the Stanford AIM lab.

In this episode of PDs at SEA, Dr. David Stahl reconnects with two former colleagues from The Ohio State University to reflect on what happens when leadership changes hands in a residency program. Dr. Amy Bauman, now the program director at OSU, and Dr. Jared Spear, outgoing chief resident, join the conversation to discuss the practical and emotional dimensions of program director transition from three different vantage points: the departing PD, the incoming PD, and the residents navigating the shift.

The discussion explores why program directors move on, how successors step into leadership roles they may or may not have felt ready for, and what residents experience when the person who recruited them is no longer the one leading the program. The conversation also addresses the realities of the job itself: the steady presence of daily fires to manage, the challenge of maintaining boundaries and perspective, and the ways in which mentorship, communication, and shared values carry programs through change.

Despite the inherent uncertainty of leadership turnover, the episode emphasizes continuity of culture, trust, and purpose. It offers reassurance to applicants and residents alike that transitions are common, that strong programs remain strong, and that the work of training physicians continues to be deeply meaningful.

This episode was originally published September 15, 2025 on YouTube