What if purpose isn’t the thing you’re excited about but the thing you’re obedient to, even while hoping god chooses someone else?
In this episode of the Purpose Finder Podcast, I sat down with Pastor Joshua Williams for a conversation that stayed with me long after we wrapped.
We didn’t rush purpose or try to make it sound pretty. We talked about what it’s really like to say yes when you’re unsure, conflicted, and still figuring things out. We talked about obedience that isn’t loud or confident but real.
Josh shared how his yes to leadership wasn’t clean or exciting. It was Jonah-like. Obedient, but reluctant. Faithful, but wrestling. Saying yes while quietly hoping God might change His mind.
And still the purpose unfolded.
Not because everything made sense. Not because he felt ready. But because he stayed and kept showing up.
If you’ve ever felt called and confused at the same time… If you’ve ever said yes while still questioning… If you’ve ever wondered why purpose doesn’t always feel inspiring…
This conversation is for you. Timestamps:
00:00 The Cost of Saying Yes 05:14 From Creative Dreams to Ministry 13:05 Blazing a New Trail 21:17 Navigating Family Business Transitions 22:51 Family, Faith, and Leadership 32:47 Pastoring Means Advocating for All 35:53 Advocating True Diversity and Inclusion 40:24 Joshua's Journey of Faith 48:40 Ducking Offense and Ambition 53:13 Understanding Your God-Given Role 59:10 Faith, Fatherhood, and Struggles 01:04:19 Prioritizing Marriage Through Connection 01:06:09 Trusting God First 01:12:17 Discover and Share Your Purpose #CharisaMunroe #PurposeFinderPodcast #PurposeAndObedience #CallingAndFaith #ObedienceOverClarity #FaithInTheWrestle #TrustingGodsTiming #PurposeJourney #WhenGodFeelsLate #LeadingWithIntegrity #ServingWithFaith #LegacyInTheMaking
About the Guest
Joshua ‘PJ’ Williams was named lead pastor of AWC in 2022, succeeding his parents, Dr. Martin and Dr. Lynnell Williams.
His vision is to create a church that truly reflects Heaven—“multicultural, multiethnic, and multigenerational; on purpose.” His mission is to teach the Gospel of the Kingdom in a way that is easily understood and applied.
He is dedicated to creativity and innovation, reaching both the “over-churched” and the “under-churched,” with his deepest desire being to lead a church that acts as Jesus’ hands and feet.
PJ's favorite role is being a husband to his longtime sweetheart, Vannessa, and a father to their son, LJ.
Visit their website: https://www.awcnation.org/ Follow him @speakingofjosh
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