Chris and Joe invite you into their brand new Quantus podcast studio.

Over steaming cups of tea, they share stories, plans, and the energy that's shaping the next chapter of Quantus.

In this episode, Christopher Smith and Joe Mattia dive into one of their most free-flowing conversations yet — exploring DNA as taboo, nature vs. culture, retribution, rituals, shadow integration, psychedelics, fear of death, propaganda, and the psychology of control.

From the Sydney Sweeney "Good Genes" controversy, to ancient tribal justice systems, to blue lotus dream states, to the Balinese mass-suicide legend — this episode moves through biology, mythology, geopolitics, and consciousness in a single wide-ranging arc.

A philosophical, humorous, and at times intense exploration of what it means to be human in a world where technology, culture, and fear shape behavior more than we realize.

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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – DNA, taboo & the "Good Genes" controversy
03:00 – Nature, fairness & ancient retribution systems
06:00 – Surgery, anatomy & the reality beneath the skin
08:00 – Tea ceremony, deep steeping & mythological dream plants
11:00 – Blue lotus, archetypes & symbolic language
14:00 – Death, psychedelics & dissolving fear
17:00 – Evolutionary survival, strategies & the AI myth
20:00 – COVID, propaganda & the psychology of control
25:00 – Projection, government trust & collective illusions
30:00 – Initiation rites, ancestors, genealogy & returning to nature

In this episode, Christopher Smith and Joe Mattia sit down with Raghav Gulati (CEO of CoinList) and Arjun Khemani for a fast-moving conversation about building, learning, consciousness, technology, and the future of human intelligence.

They explore how curiosity compounds, why practical skills matter more than ever, how to think clearly in a noisy world, and how to build systems — educational, technological, economic — that actually scale human potential.

This episode dives deep into network schools, startup societies, crypto infrastructure, consciousness, programming reality, and the psychology of growth.

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Arjun Khemani

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Christopher Smith

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Joe Mattia

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Quantus Network

https://www.quantus.com/

https://t.me/quantusnetwork

https://linktr.ee/quantusnetwork

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Opening: What Network School unlocked

02:00 – Teaching practical skills vs traditional curriculum

05:00 – Curiosity, learning speed & compounding intelligence

08:00 – Consciousness, perception & programming reality

11:00 – How to think clearly in a noisy world

15:00 – Education, contribution & building meaningful communities

19:00 – Crypto infrastructure & the future of digital economies

23:00 – Technology, incentives & scalable governance

27:00 – Why personal agency matters in a programmable world

31:00 – The future of networks, freedom & human potential

In this debut episode, it's just us — Joe and Chris — kicking things off with raw thoughts, real talk, and a few unfiltered tangents you definitely didn't ask for… but might just love.

We dig into the origins of Quantus, why this podcast exists, the future of crypto, and how quantum computing will reshape everything. No script, no polish — just pure signal.

Founder and CEO of Quantus Network, Christopher is a technology pioneer and entrepreneur at the frontier of AI, blockchain, and quantum computing.

With over a decade of experience, he's built projects such as BitMesh, Lunyr (LUN), and FactoryDAO (FVT), and was an early contributor to the Bitcoin open-source ecosystem.

Christopher Smith
https://x.com/YuviLightman

Joe Mattia
https://x.com/JoeMattia

Quantus Network
https://www.quantus.com/
https://t.me/quantusnetwork
https://linktr.ee/quantusnetwork

00:00 – Intro
00:35 – Why this podcast exists
04:12 – Chris on the early Bitcoin era
08:50 – How Quantus began
14:32 – The quantum threat: what's coming
20:45 – Crypto today vs 10 years ago
27:18 – Building resilient systems
33:40 – What we want listeners to take away
38:12 – The road ahead
45:05 – Closing thoughts

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