Episodes

  • David Hayward is the Naked Pastor

    David Hayward is the Naked Pastor
    Feb 11 2026
    We were so fortunate to talk to David Hayward, known for his work under the moniker the Naked Pastor, in this spacious and honest episode about art, deconstruction, feminine wisdom, nature, and more. David shares with us his spiritual journey that is continually unfolding. His gentle storytelling invited us to look deeply at our spirituality, to not be afraid to live the questions when they come up, and to begin to move towards whatever is stirring within our hearts. There is no wrong way to become your fullest self, and the world deeply needs people who have come alive. This chat opened up some things for us to sit with, we hope it does the same for you.

    Show Notes

    • The Naked Pastor Website
    • Naked Pastor on Instagram
    • The Liberation of Sophia
    • Without a Vision my People Prosper-
    • Till Doubt Do Us Part
    • The Lasting Supper - Online Community
    • Nadya Tolokonnikova from Pussy Riot Art
    • Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
    Chapters
    00:00 The National Anthem and Its Hidden Truths
    02:56 Introducing David Hayward: The Naked Pastor
    05:59 The Naked Truth: Spiritual Abuse and Silence
    11:39 The Journey of Deconstruction Begins
    14:47 Reconstruction: Integrating the Past
    19:05 Sophia: The Feminine Wisdom Within
    25:56 Masculinity and the Inner Feminine
    33:03 Jesus and Feminine Wisdom in the Church
    39:19 Navigating Marriage Through Deconstruction
    42:51 The Glue of Relationships: Love Beyond Beliefs
    45:43 Navigating Deconstruction in Relationships
    46:18 Loneliness and Community Rebuilding
    49:38 Finding New Connections Outside Faith Communities
    51:34 Art as Resistance and Inspiration
    56:48 Nature's Role in Inspiration and Connection
    01:00:28 The Power of Awe and Love
    01:10:27 The Naked Pastor's Journey and Future Directions
    01:12:35 NEWCHAPTER
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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • Wes Ellis and Abiding in Amen

    Wes Ellis and Abiding in Amen
    Feb 4 2026
    We had a lovely time chatting with Wes Ellis about his book Abiding in Prayer! Wes is a pastor, professor, and author who decided to look at prayer through a gentle, nonjudgmental, and playful lens. We chat about abiding in prayer, silence, what resonates deeply within us, and approaching prayer in a hopeful, open hearted way. We hope that this episode gives you the space you need to check out prayer in new and innovative ways! May your prayers flow through you freely, may they reach the depths of your heart and spirit, and may your prayers lead you to act.

    Show Notes:
    • Abiding in Amen
    • Wes Ellis Website
    • The Uncontrollability of the World by Hartmut Rosa
    • God in Creation by Jurgen Moltmann
    • Theology of Play by Jurgen Moltmann

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to Prayer and Its Significance
    05:11 Exploring the Challenges of Prayer in a Secular Age
    10:25 Defining Prayer: A Two-Way Communication
    13:10 Prayer as Technology: A Cautionary Perspective
    18:33 Resonance in Prayer Practices
    21:11 The Concept of Disposable Prayer
    24:40 The Importance of Play in Spiritual Life
    27:09 The Importance of Play and Joy in Troubling Times
    27:50 Prayer as Community Action
    30:08 Suffering with the World: A New Perspective
    33:15 The Role of the Church in Transformation
    35:19 Being Ready: The Nature of Prayer
    38:27 Everything as Prayer: A New Understanding
    44:58 Breath Prayer and the Desert Fathers
    51:04 Finding Beauty Amidst Darkness
    52:03 Invitation to Simple Prayer
    53:48 NEWCHAPTER
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    55 mins
  • Finding Awe Through Creative Flow with the Seryn

    Finding Awe Through Creative Flow with the Seryn
    Jan 28 2026
    We had the loveliest of chats with Seryn founding members Nathan James Allen and Trenton Wheeler! We talk creativity, flow, letting our questions guide us, their beginnings as a band in Denton, TX, their pause from creating music together, the pathway back to one another, and their newest songs. Join us for this winding, interesting, music and hope filled conversation. Fun fact: our new intro and outro music is a gorgeous tune called Beach Song by Seryn. This song means a lot to us and we hope that you enjoy it as well!

    Show Notes:
    • Seryn
    • Seryn on Instagram
    • Youtube
    • Playing March 21 - Thinline Filmfest - Denton, TX
    • Transcendental Reunion - Mary Chapin Carpenter
    • A Chance to Cut is a Chance to Cure - Matmos
    • App - Bednight Sleep Music
    • The Birds Wrote Me a Poem by: Andrea Gibson

    Chapters
    00:00 The Poetic Prelude
    04:04 Introducing Seryn: Origins and Name
    07:06 The Hiatus: Conflict and Growth
    11:40 Reunion and Healing Through Music
    19:45 Serendipitous Connections and Band Dynamics
    25:30 Nature's Influence on Music
    30:45 The Creative Process Behind 'River Song'
    32:31 The Significance of 'Beach Song'
    43:14 Faith and Doubt in Our Music
    55:26 The Importance of Questioning Beliefs
    57:00 Artists as Voices of the Oppressed
    57:43 Finding Inspiration in Turbulent Times
    01:00:24 The Role of Family in Creativity
    01:03:31 Navigating Anxiety and Creativity
    01:09:50 The Urgency of Time and Connection
    01:19:21 NEWCHAPTER
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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • Grace Ji-Sun Kim on Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice

    Grace Ji-Sun Kim on Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice
    Jan 21 2026
    Rev. Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim joins us today to talk about her book Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice. In Earthbound, Grace instills a sense of urgency around taking care of our earth and each other. She calls us to be the image of God and to approach the holy work of reciprocity in a spirit of love, creativity, aliveness, forgiveness, and beauty. Grace’s work empowers, invites, and ignites us into action as we work together to build a future that is hopeful for all beings. We are grateful for Grace, her witness, and her wisdom.

    Show Notes:
    • Earthbound - Book
    • Making Peace with the Earth - Book
    • Planetary Solidarity - Book
    • Chi and the Transformative Spirit of Love - Book
    • Intersectional Theology - Book
    • When God Became White - Book
    • Hope in Disarray - Book
    • Grace Ji-Sun Kim Substack
    • Grace on Instagram
    • Madang Podcast

    Chapters
    00:00 Opening Poem and Introduction
    01:55 Introducing Grace Ji-Sun Kim
    02:35 The Need for Earthbound
    05:16 The White Male God Concept
    10:38 Theological Implications of Climate Justice
    15:41 Dualism in Evangelical Theology
    19:49 Experiential Theology and Creation Care
    25:20 A Theology of Verbs
    29:44 Finding Hope in Action
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    33 mins
  • Becoming Kin with Patty Krawec

    Becoming Kin with Patty Krawec
    Jan 14 2026
    We loved getting the opportunity to speak with Patty Krawec, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club, speaker, activist, and co-founder of the Nii'kinaaganaa Foundation. Patty talks to us about the importance of remembering our history honestly so that we can reimagine a future that is reciprocal for all people and for the land. Patty’s work is invitational and reminds us that we are all relatives. Show Notes:
    • Patty Krawec
    • Becoming Kin
    • payyourrent.ca
    • Taté Walker poem - Land Back
    • Once the World was Perfect by Joy Harjo

    Chapters
    00:00 The Perfect World and Its Downfall
    02:21 Introducing Patti Krowick: Activism and Literature
    05:38 Unforgetting the Past: A Path to Reimagining the Future
    10:31 The Journey of Returning to Oneself
    18:46 The Eighth Fire: Collective Responsibility and Future Visions
    25:31 Listening to the Land: Environmental and Spiritual Connections
    30:16 The Seventh and Eighth Fires: Prophecies and Responsibilities
    34:42 Understanding Historical Contexts
    35:57 The Concept of Displacement and Community
    39:32 Roots and Responsibilities
    43:31 Activism and Hope
    46:30 Connecting Through Knowledge and Action
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    50 mins
  • How to Love a Forest with Ethan Tapper

    How to Love a Forest with Ethan Tapper
    Jan 7 2026
    How we Love a Forest is how we Love Everything with Ethan Tapper. Join us for this transformative and hopeful chat with forrester, author of How We Love a Forest, and digital storyteller Ethan Tapper! Ethan walks us through what it looks like to love and give your life over to whatever is calling to you from the depths of your heart. We visit about his 175 acres called Bear Island and the restorative and sometimes heartbreaking work it takes to love well. Ethan’s knowledge of trees, foxes, birds and wild things that roam Bear Island is delightful and invitational. Our hearts were changed by his deep commitment to the land and to the future.
    Show Notes:
    • Ethan Tapper
    • How to Love a Forest: The Bittersweet Work of Tending a Changing World
    • Willow and the Storm - Children’s Book
    • Ethan’s Instagram
    • What the Robin Knows by John Young
    • Dr. Lyla June
    • EO Wilson
    • In Blackwater Woods by: Mary Oliver
    Chapters
    00:00 The Essence of Nature and Loss
    01:25 Introducing Ethan Tapper: A Forester's Journey
    04:48 Bear Island: A Symbol of Hope and Responsibility
    09:46 Wildlife and Ecosystem Relationships
    15:48 Human Nature and Ecological Responsibility
    21:14 The Complexity of Ecosystems and Love for Nature
    26:52 The Unexpected Joy of Public Speaking
    27:17 Emerging Themes of Hope
    28:11 Engaging the Younger Generation
    29:29 The Power of Hope in Action
    30:15 Mythologizing Forests and Emotional Connections
    31:05 The Role of Emotion in Environmental Advocacy
    33:49 Balancing Science and Spirituality
    37:48 Delight in Nature's Wonders
    38:24 The Complexity of Life and Death
    48:06 Understanding Death in Ecosystems
    52:55 The Beauty of Forests and Their Lessons
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    57 mins
  • A Year in Reflection and Cheers to a New Year

    A Year in Reflection and Cheers to a New Year
    Dec 31 2025
    Cheers to a New Year from Radical Sacred! This year has been a bit of a shit sandwich for us so if you’re feeling less than holly jolly this one's for you. We chat about where we are and our hopes for 2026. We choose a few words that will be our guiding light for the year to come and remember our favorite episodes from this season. Thanks for being on this journey with us! “May the nourishment of the earth be yours,may the clarity of light be yours,may the fluency of the ocean be yours, may the protection of the ancestors be yours.” - John O’Donohue

    Show Notes:
    • Beannacht by: John O’Donohue
    • Ted Radio Hour - Finding Your Bliss with Krista Tippett of On Being
    • The Case for Making Art When the World is on Fire Aime McNee
    • Living the Questions by Rilke
    • Yes, That’s When by: Rosemary Wahtola Trommer

    Chapters
    00:00 New Year's Reflections and Technical Challenges
    02:12 Personal Introductions and Life Updates
    09:11 Memorable Conversations and Insights from the Year
    14:43 Creativity, Vulnerability, and the Importance of Expression
    21:30 Living with Questions and Embracing Uncertainty
    26:14 Navigating Personal Challenges and Growth
    28:50 Navigating New Year's Emotions
    30:31 Leaving Behind and Embracing for the New Year
    33:37 Personal Reflections on Avoidance and Authenticity
    37:22 Words of Intention for 2026
    40:50 Reciprocity and Creativity in Relationships
    44:25 Words for 2026: Unfold, Return, and Holistic
    50:16 Expansion and Blooming into the New Year
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    57 mins
  • Reciprocal Rhythms: Poetry and the Dance of Chaos with Padraig O' Tuama

    Reciprocal Rhythms: Poetry and the Dance of Chaos with Padraig O' Tuama
    Dec 24 2025
    On this special Christmas Eve episode we get to chat with poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama! Pádraig talks with us about reciprocity in all its forms, chaos, cooperation and conflict resolution, doing what is yours to do and more! We are so thankful for Pádraig, his work and his wise words, for all of you listening, and for the hope we find in poetry, art, music, nature, and creation in these uncertain times. May your Christmas be filled with love and joy and may you follow your imagination and explore all that is within you and all that calls to you.

    Show Notes:
    • The Kingdom of Ordinary Time
    • conflictintelligence.org
    • Substack - Poetry Unbound Poetry Unbound Podcast
    • In Between the Sun and Moon
    • Circle

    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Poetry and Personal Connection
    03:38 Exploring Reciprocity in Relationships
    05:03 Nature as Inspiration in Poetry
    09:55 Understanding Chaos and Its Role in Life
    14:40 The Intersection of Poetry and Chaos
    15:55 The Writing Process and Rituals
    22:03 Conflict Resolution and the Role of Community
    30:19 The Pedagogy of Conflict
    33:05 Art as a Response to Crisis
    40:21 Understanding Thin Spaces
    46:42 Celtic Spirituality and Modern Contexts
    48:37 Finding Hope in Community
    50:58 The Role of Imagination in Writing
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    57 mins