Kit and Alex discuss the question and common thought we have as clinicians “do we have enough skills to assess and manage some of our patients?”

Themes that emerge include:

The practitioner’s experience of feeling a lack of worth in session and how this influences our interactions.

How thoughts questioning our worth and knowledge can reduce staying in the present when treating, the value of being grounding ourselves and being present in a session, how we might employ this skill and the benefit it has when we are experiencing these feelings and emotions.

The seduction of trying to solve our feelings around our lack of knowledge with more knowledge seeking, instead of dealing with how we can improve our own concept of self worth.

How we as practitioners might be reinforcing our clients disconnection and distance from their symptoms and problems by disconnecting from our own experiences around our knowledge, skills and worth.

The challenge of being present as a clinician and paying attention to our own embodied experience, and resisting overanalysing whilst still problem solving, providing a plan, and educating the patient when needed

Kit shares how she and Shelley Barlow held a workshop last year with a small group of health professionals exploring the practitioner experience within a novel learning container. Alex and Kit reflect on our own personal experiences, our own knowledge and concept of self-worth and what thoughts and feelings came up for each of us during our chat.

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Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

In true Real Clinician Real Chat styles, Alex and Kit reflect on the year in episode 13, drawing on their 2023 intention to cultivate a space for emergent discussions.

Alex introduces the concept of success and they explore what that looks and feels like, given they both navigated big professional changes during the year as sole practitioner businesses.

The discussion includes themes such as:

- navigating change and the value of experiential learning
- success beyond an outcome - as a feeling / a way of being / a sense of self
- success in the present moment, not just in the past and the future
- the value of trust within ourselves and cultivating trust within our clients as a form of success
- the value of honesty with ourselves to develop clarity
- embodied qualities to develop our wise adult part
- intentionality and the role it can play to support a process

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Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

This episode, Kit and Alex are joined by John Contreras, a Melbourne based physiotherapist who has been working in the field for over 20 years.

John, as well as working as a patient centered clinician, has been busy cultivating a social club for allied health practitioners to connect and have discussions about topics other than anatomy and differential diagnoses.

He is passionate about creating space where practitioners can be nourished and treated as an equal, and where learning can look and feel different.

In this episode, emerging themes explore:

- social connection as a resource
- sitting with uncertainty
- failure in healthcare
- mentoring / supporting younger clinicians

It was a pleasure to have John in for a chat, where his experience and warm wisdom, along with his vulnerability, make for lovely listening.

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www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

Alex and Kit both show up to episode 11 somewhat tired, flat, and irritable, yet instead of delaying the podcast for another day, they decide to explore what is currently present for each of them, allowing the emergent dialogue itself to be a nourishing experience.

We are becoming more aware of the research that shows our experiences as practitioners providing care influences the intersubjective space.

This means how we show up and our intentionality impacts the contextual factors of care.

By exploring our own experiences we can step towards humanising each other, and making space for our whole selves.

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www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

This episode we welcome our second guest into our podcast home, Emily McIver. Em is a new graduate physiotherapist who is currently working in private practice on the Sunshine Coast after finishing study in Melbourne last year.

We explore reflective practice, in particular creating space for ourselves to learn that nourish us and differ from the learning environments at university. Em shares her insights around how she has resourced herself to cope with the inherent challenges of being a new graduate in the current healthcare climate. Themes emerge around cultivating her personhood, holding uncertainty and feelings oof inadequacy, the value of mentors that lower expectations and reassure, and how the process of evolving as a clinician takes time, support, and slowing down.

Em strongly advocates for more conversational learning in environments where curiosity and nonjudgement are centred - and Alex and I couldn’t agree more!

This episode is a beauty for any new graduates out there feeling alone or isolated.

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www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

Kit and Alex reflect on their first experience of having a guest in their podcast home, appreciating the value of inviting real clinicians on rather than subject experts.

Kit shares her recent change in clinic life with taking on a new lease for her biz. She speaks about how the transition is bringing up deeper layers around fear, doubt and self-worth and how she’s noticing how those parts are sitting alongside the openness, expansion and playfulness in an embodied way.

They discuss how Kit navigated “struggle town” through the challenges that emerged with the move and how that can relate to life in clinic with the people we work alongside. They explore about how to be with people in their challenges, allowing space for fear, worth, panic, and making space for each individuals felt sense knowledge that is different to intellectual knowing.

Alex brings in research around what patients require for collaboration in terms of structure and un-structured time within session to communicate their unique experiences. They talk about how we hold different frameworks / maps as guides that can bring some structure or shape to sessions whilst allowing for unstructured time to allow for building trust and the relationship.

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You can follow Kit:
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www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

In this episode Kit and Alex host their inaugural guest, Bernadette Meade, who is a podiatrist working in Warrnambool in south-western Victoria.

Bringing awareness and attention to the everyday clinician’s experience is an important part of the evolution of healthcare and rather than have ‘experts’ in the field on as guests, Kit and Alex wanted to honour their intention of real chats with real clinicians and delve into the experiences of those that listen to the podcast.

In this episode Bernie joins the discussion where themes emerge around practitioner overwhelm, knowledge consumption, productivity, rest, and nourishment, and how important it is for us as clinicians to recognise what we might need in each moment.

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You can follow Alex:
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You can follow Kit:
@wisephysiotherapy on Facebook and Instagram
www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.

This episode, Kit and Alex do some meta reflection, and explore how we engage in reflective processes within clinical settings with patients.

Kit explores an organic reflection with one of her clients that allowed new understandings to be unearthed and insights made.

Alex speaks to the framework of behaviour change and how we can miss important contextual information about the patient and their experience that is central to care.

As is becoming quite common, Kit and Alex tend to find more questions than answers, yet reflect on the importance of that!

You can follow us:
@realcliniciansrealchats on Facebook and Instagram

You can follow Alex:
@therehabpodiatrist on Facebook, Instagram
@therehabpod on Twitter
www.therehabpodiatrist.com

You can follow Kit:
@wisephysiotherapy on Facebook and Instagram
www.wisephysiotherapy.com.au

Special thanks to Clariloops for our theme music.