In this special edition of 'A Word with Sturg,' host Jon Sturgis sits down with his old friend Ryan Kellogg for an intimate conversation about their shared past, personal transformations, and Ryan's courageous battle with depression. Ryan shares enlightening insights about the significance of family, new experiences in various parts of the country, and how these life shifts led to profound changes in his social life, ultimately triggering his depression.

A large part of their discussion focuses on promoting open dialogues about mental health within families, a practice both Sturgis and Kellogg admit they previously overlooked. Ryan depicts how his work union played a crucial role in his journey to self-acceptance and overcoming mental health issues. The conversation takes an unexpected turn when Ryan reveals his unusual use of magic mushrooms as a coping mechanism and its positive impact on his personal development.

Sturgis praises their contrasting viewpoints on overcoming life challenges. Recounting his past reluctance to seek professional help, Sturgis highlights how support from colleagues and inspirational resources such as podcasts and books, guided his recovery.

In a compelling twist, Kellogg discusses the influence of music on mental wellbeing, cautioning against overconsumption of certain types that may exacerbate depressive symptoms. He describes his own practice of expressing gratitude to foster a positive mindset.

The episode concludes with Kellogg's invaluable advice for those still grappling with mental health issues. Ryan's poignant message to his younger self, encouraging him to hang in there during tough times, adds a deep emotional level to the episode. This candid conversation offers a unique viewpoint on combating depression, making it a must-listen for those in search of alternative healing methods.