Episode 6 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo dig into their middle names (and why Chris isn't actually a Jr.), confess secrets they've somehow never told their spouses, and go down a Letterboxd rabbit hole reviewing recent movies like Backrooms and Little Brother. Then it's VBS season — cue the wildest VBS themes either of them has ever encountered, including an "American Idol" parody and a summer camp with a very specific political bent.

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Episode 7 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo debate which Bible character has the biggest "unc energy" (Elisha and the bear-mauling incident is a strong contender), spiral into a surprisingly serious debate about whether Jesus was actually short, and share VBS stories — including the moment they discovered their curriculum was published by Mormons. Then Chris tells the full, chaotic story of his time as a college mascot, complete with a kid, a plastic sword, and a costume malfunction.

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Episode 5 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Mateo dig into what pastors and worship leaders actually get paid (including a wild $2,000-a-week rumor out of Detroit), then trade their most chaotic church memories — a youth pastor's crash course in explaining polyamory to 14-year-olds (or vise versa), a baptism testimony that goes sideways, and a Halloween church play moment neither of them will ever forget. They close it out with a rant about Christians who love the word "liturgy" a little too much.

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Episode 3 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris and Mateo design the ultimate church tailgate — playlist, food, games, and all — before Chris drops a hot take that Pilgrim's Progress might be the most tedious "classic" ever written. Then it's a rapid-fire roast of the best and worst cities in Metro Detroit.

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Chris and Mateo dig into their pastor's-kid childhoods and compare notes on what was — and wasn't — allowed in their houses growing up. Pokémon, Harry Potter, Dungeons & Dragons, Ouija boards, and yes, Grand Theft Auto all make an appearance, along with a surprise baby cameo and a hot take on the "Jesus Calling" devotional that might start a fight in the comments.

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Welcome to the very first episode of Sunday School Slackers — a new podcast from filmmaker Chris Mac and pastor/dad-of-five Mateo McGill. Two friends, one virtual hangout (Chris is in San Diego, Mateo's in Metro Detroit), and zero plans to take themselves too seriously.

In this debut episode, Chris and Mateo introduce themselves, go down a rabbit hole about AI and gas station milkshakes, talk fatherhood and fitness, and finally reveal the wild list of names they almost picked before landing on "Sunday School Slackers."

If you're a Christian creative, don't miss Chris's other show, Creative Chapel, where he dives into the intersection of faith and creativity.

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Episode 4 of Sunday School Slackers! Chris Mac and Matteo recap their first Father's Day as dads — church, gifts that made them both cry, and a card with a hidden puzzle — before Matteo shares the wildest conversation he's ever had at his regular Jewish bathhouse hangout. Plus, Chris Mac breaks the news that his signature Creative Chapel closing question (the Veggie Tales bit) might be getting cut for good.

Welcome to Sunday school slackers - a podcast hosted by Chris Mac and Matteo McGill bringing you all the hot and holy takes to make you laugh from outrageous riffs and bits - going places your Sunday school never dared. Come hang with us every Friday for a new episode