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In this episode, Ashton takes the mic solo while Amanda is in full-on moving mode (Danville ➝ Indiana chaos… the real pain body trigger 😅) and she brings in someone perfectly matched for the topic: Shelly Henk, former nurse turned “artist of the soul,” co-author of the bestselling book Just Say No, and featured in the PBS documentary Medical Stories Under Control.
Together, they dive into pain..not just as a feeling, but as a force: how unprocessed emotional wounds live in the body, how they get “reactivated” by everyday triggers, and why symptoms like anxiety, chronic fatigue, migraines, inflammation, and even burnout can be your body waving a giant red flag that something deeper needs to be witnessed.
Using Eckhart Tolle’s concept of the pain body as a launching point, Shelly breaks it down with a more grounded lens: emotions are real, measurable, stored in tissue and they don’t disappear just because we “move on.” Ashton shares her own raw experience with what it looks like when a carefully-built emotional fortress finally cracks, and why true healing often requires something many high achievers avoid: an empathetic witness, a safe space, and the courage to actually feel.
They also explore why so many high performers are driven by trauma responses, why our culture is terrible at grief and emotional processing, and how healing isn’t just about “fixing the past” - it’s about rewriting the story, reclaiming wholeness, and turning pain into purpose.
Shelly closes by sharing how she helps clients through her signature process, Artful Story Work, using the canvas as a tool for emotional release and transformation- moving through the four elements: Feel, Heal, Dream, and Create.
If you’ve ever felt like your reactions are “too big,” your body is carrying something your mind won’t name, or you’re ready to stop surviving and start living -this conversation will meet you right where you are.