The hardest part after a divorce isn't always the divorce.

This week on the Back 9, we sit down with Dr. Barbark Kelly to talk about co-parenting, and why it's often the part of divorce that lingers the longest.

We get into what happens when youand your ex don't agree on what's best for your kids, how communication breaks down, and why a more structured approach can help steady things. But more than anything, this is how you show up for your kids in the middle of it.

We also make it personal. With big milestones ahead, we're both dedicated to handling these moments in the right way, and we explore how to do just that.

Your kids are paying attention.(paragraph). If you're in it now, or just trying to do it better, this one will resonate...on the Back 9.

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Great leaders don't rely on talk. They just show up.

This week on The Back 9, we sit down with Coach Mark Soto — longtime football coach, mentor, and leader — to talk about what leadership actually looks like in real life, at home and on the field.

Coach Soto shares lessons from decades of coaching and raising kids, including what it means to lead with humility, set the standard through your actions, and guide young men into strong, grounded masculinity. From players who exceeded every expectation to his own sons who chose the hardest possible path in service, Mark's perspective is steady, honest, and earned.

If you're a father, coach, or anyone trying to lead better, this one finds the fairway...on the Back 9.

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Most marriages don't fail because of surprises. They fail because we ignore the early signs.

This week on The Back 9, we sit down with Kevin Thompson, marriage and life pastor at California's Bayside Church, to break down the real reasons relationships struggle, and how we can fix them before it's too late.

Kevin dives into attachment styles, love patterns, communication breakdowns, and why the problems couples fight about years into marriage are usually there long before the wedding. He explains the predictable stages of marriage stress and why most couples wait until they're near the end to get help.

If last week was about toxic relationships and missed red flags, this one is about awareness, growth, and building a relationship that can make it to the finish line.

So if you're dating, married, divorced, or just willing to try again, this is one you need… on the Back 9.

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Four marriages led to four divorces. You'd think a successful, well-known international life coach would know the signs.

But when he met a former supermodel, he walked straight into a relationship he couldn't control, couldn't fix, and couldn't leave.

Stephen Paul Edwards tells a story that's as seductive as it is destructive. His attraction was instant. The warning signs were obvious. The chaos kept increasing. Yet he still stayed.

Because when you're the fly in the trap, it doesn't feel like a trap. It feels like connection. Like passion. Like something you don't want to lose.

We've been there. We get why so many men stay in toxic relationships. And in this episode we hear the details of this story when intensity masks dysfunction, and how even self-aware, successful people ignore what they know deep down.

It's about recognizing the pattern, owning your role in it, and finding the strength to finally break free…on The Back 9.

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Dr. Achim Zinggrebe spent his life treating cancer—until he became the cancer patient.

After being diagnosed with lymphoma, everything changed. Not just his own situation, but also how he saw medicine and how he viewed life. He realized that even in the middle of cancer, most of his body was still working for him. That became the mantra of his practice.

Our conversation explores life after cancer, remission, and what it really means to heal the body, mind, spirit, and soul. Achim shares how his experience reshaped the way he practices medicine and how patients can move from surviving to truly thriving.

This is a conversation about perspective, resilience, and learning how to live fully again…on The Back 9.

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What if the hardest things you've been through weren't holding you back, but are instead shaping your strength?

Author and Advocate Misty Carson joins us to kick off season 12, by challenging one of the most common beliefs around trauma: that it's something to "get over." Instead, she shares how trauma, adversity, and early instability can become the foundation for resilience, perspective, and purpose.

Misty defines the moment when one decides whether your past will define you or drive you. We go through the steps of how it takes intention, accountability, and sometimes creating distance from the patterns and people that shaped you, even if they love you. Even if they mean well.

This is an inspirational conversation about how we turn pain into purpose when we realize that the difficulties we go through can be the very things that moves us forward…on The Back 9.

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We have spent years learning what it really takes to rebuild our lives —and find love again—after divorce.

As Season 12 of The Back 9 begins, we reflect on why these conversations matter. After more than 100 episodes exploring all aspects of midlife transitions, one theme that keeps resurfacing is that divorce can shake a man's identity to the core.

It's also the question shaping the book we're currently writing—about how men heal, rebuild, and eventually find love again.

We talk about the real work behind that process: learning to be alone, facing disappointment, and doing the personal work before stepping into a healthy second relationship.

Because love after divorce is less about the comeback story, than it is about becoming the man who's ready for it…on The Back 9.

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Have you noticed the moment when the Back 9 of life stops being a metaphor and starts feeling real?

As Season 11 of The Back 9 wraps, we reflect on the shifts that come with midlife. Our daughters are grown. Our health and longevity feel personal. Time carries more weight.

This season we explored fatherhood, friendship, identity, reinvention, and building the next chapter. In this 19th Hole, we turn the conversation inward.

We talk about mortality, letting go of roles that no longer fit, and the clarity that comes when we realize time matters more than ever.

Because while none of us knows how many holes are left—but we can choose how we play them…on The Back 9.

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