In this episode of the Business Transformation Podcast, host Heath Gascoigne—Founder & CEO of HOBA Tech, creator of the HOBA® framework, and author of The Business Transformation Playbook—sits down with Jarrett Bunnin, a U.S. government transformation leader working at the intersection of digital innovation, policy, and ethical AI.

What we cover

• The difference between real transformation and "tech theatre," and why over-complication kills outcomes.

• How to escape pilot purgatory and build systems that actually scale in government.

• Governance, adoption, and the critical role of middle management in change that sticks.

• Using a framework of frameworks—choosing only what accelerates value for your context.

• Where agentic AI helps (and where human judgment still matters).

Quotable

• "The biggest risk in government transformation isn't AI — it's inaction. Pilot purgatory is the new bureaucracy." — Heath

• "You can't regulate trust, but you can design for it." — Jarrett

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Host: Heath Gascoigne | HOBA Tech®
Guest: Jarrett Bunnin

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🚨 Culture eats strategy for breakfast — but who's feeding culture in your organisation?

In this episode of the Business Transformation Podcast, host Heath Gascoigne sits down with Larry Mendelberg—boardroom strategist, C-suite whisperer, and transformation consultant with 30+ years experience helping leadership teams drive sustainable change.

This episode is for anyone who's ever faced executive resistance, change fatigue, or stakeholder inertia while trying to transform an organisation that says the right things—but does the wrong ones.

Larry breaks down the psychology of leadership teams, the trap of top-down transformation, and the frameworks he uses to unblock decisions, align values, and create traction at the very top.

🔍 What You'll Learn in This Episode:

⏱️ Chapters & Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro: Meet Larry Mendelberg
02:46 – Why strategy fails when culture is misaligned
06:20 – Executive misalignment: What it is and how to fix it
10:45 – "That's not my job" – Breaking down silo mentality
14:30 – How to identify the real root cause of resistance
20:22 – Strategic facilitation at the board level
25:40 – Trust, transparency, and how to rebuild them fast
31:10 – Redesigning incentives to support transformation
35:05 – The difference between agreement vs. alignment
42:30 – What most orgs get wrong about the transformation journey
46:10 – Larry's closing advice to leaders driving change

🧠 Big Ideas from This Episode:

Culture doesn't start at the middle—it starts at the top

Most resistance is misdiagnosed (and mishandled)

Executive teams think they're aligned, but their behaviours tell another story

You can't "project manage" your way out of a leadership vacuum

Facilitation isn't fluff—it's strategy execution

🎧 Want more from Larry Mendelberg?
🔗 Website: https://www.larrymendelberg.com

📘 Book: [Insert book name if applicable]
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrymendelberg

📌 Also Mentioned:
🎯 HOBA® Business Transformation Framework → https://hoba.tech/what-is-hoba/hoba-and-agile/
📈 Take the AI Readiness Scorecard → https://hoba.tech/scorecards/ai-transformation-readiness/
🎓 Upcoming Webinar: AI for Business Transformation Professionals → https://hoba.tech/webinars/ai-for-transformation-professionals-webinar-apply-ai-with-hoba-framework/

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🔎 In this episode of The Business Transformation Podcast, we go deep into the realities of transforming businesses in Mexico and Latin America with the team from Innorendering, HOBA Tech's certified partner in the region.

🎯 What you'll learn:

• Why most "digital transformations" fail without a strategic business architecture
• How to adapt your transformation to Mexican cultural and regulatory contexts
• Real success stories from logistics and fintech companies
• How global trade tensions are accelerating transformation opportunities in Mexico
• The future of AI, nearshoring, and ESG through a Latin American lens

👥 Featuring:
Ruben Bravo | Marco Virueta | Jorge Uriega | Alicia Rodríguez

📌 Chapters:

0:00 – Intro: Why Mexico is at an inflection point
2:34 – What is Innorendering?
5:12 – Transformation beyond technology: What's missing
8:47 – Case study: Logistics company redesign
12:30 – HOBA Tech in Latin America
15:55 – Cultural & regulatory realities in Mexico
20:00 – The government's nearshoring response
24:12 – AI & automation: Use it wisely
27:30 – Final message to business leaders
30:10 – Be architects, not firefighters

🎧 Available on Spotify, Apple, and wherever you listen to podcasts.
💬 Comment below with your thoughts or transformation questions!
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