Sarina and Seth sit down with leadership coach and neuro-affirming practitioner Kathryn Martens, founder of Release Leadership. Kathryn shares her own recent ADHD diagnosis, her journey supporting neurodivergent leaders, and why traditional leadership models often fail those with “spicy brains.”

We talk about the rise in global neurodivergence awareness, the difference between neurodivergence and mental health, and why psychological safety is now legally mandated for Australian workplaces. Kathryn also explores how leaders can integrate head, heart and body intelligence, avoid burnout, and create healthier, more human work cultures.

If you're a leader, neurodivergent, parenting kids with unique wiring, or simply curious about how different brains experience the world, this conversation is full of clarity, compassion, and practical wisdom.

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In this rich and thoughtful conversation, Sarina sits down with philosopher, author, and co-host of the Around the Circle podcast, Jeff Cook, to explore one of the most overlooked layers of the Enneagram: time orientation.

Jeff unpacks how each type takes in the world and responds to it through the past, present, or future - shaping everything from our anxieties to our relational patterns. We talk about the Head Centre, mental health, meaning-making, parenting through the lens of type, and what happens when philosophy, faith, and the Enneagram collide.

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Around the Circle - an Enneagram Book

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Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠

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What happens when life is “betwixt and in-between”? In this episode, Seth and Sarina talk with freelance wisdom educator, pastoral supervisor, spiritual director, and Enneagram Type Five Dr Bruce Hulme about liminal spaces, reflective practice, and the Head Centre.

Bruce shares his journey through redundancy, anxiety, and deep transition, and how images like the labyrinth and chrysalis helped him discover contemplative friendship with God.

They unpack:

• Why “talking the walk” (reflective practice) matters
• How Head Centre types move from calculation to curiosity
• Gentle invitations for each Enneagram type in liminal seasons

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This special bonus episode features Christian psychologist Chuck DeGroat and packs a lot into just 12 minutes:

• A brief, clear explanation of narcissism

• A flyover of how narcissism shows up across all nine Enneagram types

• and what Chuck has learned about narcissism since publishing When Narcissism Comes to Church (2020)

What does true self-care look like beneath the surface?

In this conversation with Professor, Author, Therapist, and Spiritual Director Chuck DeGroat, we explore what lies beyond the quick fixes and polished versions of self-care. Chuck invites us into a deeper understanding of healing - one that begins with honesty, self-compassion, and the courage to face what’s within.

Together, we talk about the journey of coming home to God, integrating faith and psychology, and why spiritual formation is as much about unlearning old patterns as it is about growth.

If you’re in a hard season, hitting a wall, or walking through a dark night of the soul, Chuck offers a gentle invitation - to move from curiosity to connection, and to discover God’s kindness in the midst of it all.

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Book - Healing What's Within on Amazon

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Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Ever wonder what’s really going on in your head? In this Season 5 premier episode, hosts Seth and Sarina dive into the Enneagram’s Head Centre - home to Types 5, 6, and 7. They reflect on their journey through five seasons of the podcast and explore how the thinking centre shapes our anticipation, planning, and search for security. From underlying fears to personal growth, they discuss how head types navigate life, relationships, and mental health. Tune in for insights on the balance, self-awareness, and wisdom that emerge when we embrace the gifts of the Head Centre.

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Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Have you have ever wondered what Enneagram coaching is like? Sarina gives us a special window into her enneagram coaching practice as she guides Seth through exploring Type 3's pathway to personal growth. You won't want to miss this real and revealing episode. ⁠

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Sarina Sherring is the founder and director of Reflect the Original, a Coaching and Soul Care business that offers typing assessments, individual, group, couples, and team coaching as well as team building workshops and spiritual retreats.

To book your FREE 30 minute discovery call and to find out more click the link below.

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Sarina and Seth catch up with Spiritual Director, Lecturer, Community Organiser, Spiritual Formation Educator Dr Tim McCowan. Tim shares his personal Enneagram journey, learning from Fr. Richard Rohr and embracing being a Type 2. He candidly discusses how the enneagram played a pivotal role in developing a deeper spiritual journey. You won't want to miss this uniquely insightful episode. ⁠

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Enneagram Coaching & Soul Care:

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