Einstein failed math. You've heard it, maybe even said it. Chris, Jessica and Gerald go looking for the report card, find the exam he really did fail, meet the friend whose lecture notes got him through, and see why we love the myth anyway. Plus the "insanity" quote he never said, and a Finnish speeding fine that cost one man 170,000 euros.

0:00 Cold open: which subject did Einstein fail?
0:48 Princeton, 1935
1:41 Age 12 and the homework
2:38 The exam he did fail
3:59 The 1896 report card
4:40 The scale theory
5:12 The twist: Grossmann
6:53 Why we love the myth
7:20 Bonus mess: the insanity quote
8:16 Rapid-fire mess
9:10 The Mess Report
9:53 Strange but Logical: Finland's day-fines

Sources
Einstein's reply to the Ripley's clipping: https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1936731_1936743_1936758,00.html and https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/albert-einsteins-matriculation-certificate-1896/
Self-study at age 12: https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1936731_1936743_1936758,00.html and https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/12/albert-einstein-did-not-fail-at-mathematics-in-school/
The 1895 entrance exam: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/was-albert-einstein-really-a-bad-student-who-failed-math/152sh8433 and https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/early2_text.htm
The 1896 report card and the scale theory: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/albert-einsteins-matriculation-certificate-1896/ and https://factmyth.com/factoids/einstein-was-a-poor-student/
Grossmann's lecture notes: https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/early2_text.htm and https://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.4068
"Help me or I'll go crazy" and the 1913 paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.4068 and https://todayinsci.com/QuotationsCategories/G_Cat/Grossmann_Marcel-Quotations.htm
The insanity quote: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/23/same/ and https://checkyourfact.com/2019/06/26/fact-check-albert-einstein-definition-instanity-same-thing-over-different-results/
We use only 10% of our brain: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-we-really-use-only-10/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-percent-of-the-brain_myth
Newton's apple: https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/observations/whats-the-real-story-with-newton-and-the-apple-see-for-yourself and https://www.todayifoundout.com/?p=26910
Edison and the light bulb: https://zmescience.com/feature-post/who-invented-the-light-bulb-04233 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Swan
Finland's 2004 fine: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4233383 and https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/finn-gets-170-000-speeding-fine-1.1305617
Finland's 2023 fine: https://www.yahoo.com/news/finnish-businessman-handed-121-000-125636215.html and https://www.wionews.com/world/millionaire-fined-a-record-130000-for-speeding-in-finland-where-penalties-are-based-on-income-601489
How day-fines are worked out: https://www.oikeus.fi/?p=958 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine

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Did medieval plague doctors wear those bird masks? Did medieval people never wash? And did tomatoes really poison rich Europeans through their pewter plates? Three myths, two minutes.

Sources
Plague doctor masks: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/plague-doctors-beaked-masks-coronavirus and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
Medieval washing: https://www.getty.edu/news/did-medieval-people-take-baths/ and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
Tomatoes: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-the-misrepresentation-of-tomatoes-as-stinking-poison-apples-that-provoked-vomiting-made-people-afraid-of-them-for-more-than-200-years-863735/ and https://www.mentalfloss.com/history/europe-terrified-tomatoes-witchcraft

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Everyone knows Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament. But he wasn't running the plot. Chris, Jessica and Gerald meet the man who was, read the letter nobody signed, argue about whether the gunpowder would even have gone off, find out why "you guys" started on a bonfire, and visit the cellar search Parliament still does with lanterns.

0:00 Cold open: who tried to blow up Parliament?
0:42 Part 1: England, 1605
1:11 Part 2: the boss nobody remembers
2:15 Part 3: the letter nobody signed
3:04 Part 4: midnight in the cellar
3:54 Part 5: what happened next
4:43 Part 6: would it even have gone off?
5:54 Part 7: bonfires, and where "you guys" comes from
7:03 Bonus mess: what is Big Ben?
7:43 Rapid-fire mess
8:30 The Mess Report
9:01 Strange but Logical: the lantern search

Sources
Catesby led the plot, Fawkes the explosives man: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/inspire-me/5-things-the-real-story-of-bonfire-night/ and https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-the-gunpowder-plot/
The thirteen plotters: https://www.history.co.uk/articles/lesser-known-gunpowder-conspirators and https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Robert-Catesby/
The Monteagle letter and the cellar search: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/explore-the-collection/stories/the-monteagle-letter/ and https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2006/02/09/the-plot-that-failed/
"John Johnson" and the plan for Princess Elizabeth: https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/an-anonymous-letter-saved-king-and-parliament and https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2006/02/09/the-plot-that-failed/
Fawkes's signatures: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/state-secrets/traitors-and-spies/sp-14216/
His death: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-death-of-guy-fawkes
Would it have exploded?: https://chemistryworld.com/features/gunpowder-treason-and-plot/3004619.article and https://arcane.org/2003/11/05/happy-guy-fawkes-day/
The thanksgiving law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observance_of_5th_November_Act_1605 and https://cambridge.org/core/blog/2020/11/04/why-remember-the-fifth-of-november
"Guy" to "you guys": https://www.etymonline.com/word/guy and https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/guy-fawkes-may-be-root-word-guys-180953250/
Big Ben is the bell: https://www.history.com/articles/how-did-big-ben-get-its-name and https://willpearson.co.uk/big-ben
Neuschwanstein: https://en.schwangau.de/sightseeing/neuschwanstein-castle and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
Medieval beer and water: https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/ and https://content.www.wellcomecollection.org/stories/the-vilest-of-all-beverages
Dying at thirty: https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/ and https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2025/07/what-age-was-actually-considered-old-in-medieval-europe/
The lantern search: https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-Yeomen-Of-The-Guard and https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/parliament-pageantry/3/

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