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The Old Mess

The Old Mess

Written by: Echoes Within Media
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Chris, Jessica and Gerald dig into the past: the myths everyone believes, the true stories stranger than fiction, and the messes nobody saw coming. Funny, quick, and every fact sourced. The Old Mess is produced by Fola at Echoes Within Media and voiced with AI.Echoes Within Media World
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  • Mess Minute: Plague Doctors, Medieval Baths and Poison Tomatoes
    Nov 6 2026

    Did medieval plague doctors wear those bird masks? Did medieval people never wash? And did tomatoes really poison rich Europeans through their pewter plates? Three myths, two minutes.

    Sources
    Plague doctor masks: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/plague-doctors-beaked-masks-coronavirus and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
    Medieval washing: https://www.getty.edu/news/did-medieval-people-take-baths/ and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
    Tomatoes: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-the-misrepresentation-of-tomatoes-as-stinking-poison-apples-that-provoked-vomiting-made-people-afraid-of-them-for-more-than-200-years-863735/ and https://www.mentalfloss.com/history/europe-terrified-tomatoes-witchcraft

    The Old Mess is voiced with AI and produced by Fola at Echoes Within Media.

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    2 mins
  • Guy Fawkes: The Man Who Wasn't in Charge
    Nov 3 2026

    Everyone knows Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament. But he wasn't running the plot. Chris, Jessica and Gerald meet the man who was, read the letter nobody signed, argue about whether the gunpowder would even have gone off, find out why "you guys" started on a bonfire, and visit the cellar search Parliament still does with lanterns.

    0:00 Cold open: who tried to blow up Parliament?
    0:42 Part 1: England, 1605
    1:11 Part 2: the boss nobody remembers
    2:15 Part 3: the letter nobody signed
    3:04 Part 4: midnight in the cellar
    3:54 Part 5: what happened next
    4:43 Part 6: would it even have gone off?
    5:54 Part 7: bonfires, and where "you guys" comes from
    7:03 Bonus mess: what is Big Ben?
    7:43 Rapid-fire mess
    8:30 The Mess Report
    9:01 Strange but Logical: the lantern search

    Sources
    Catesby led the plot, Fawkes the explosives man: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/inspire-me/5-things-the-real-story-of-bonfire-night/ and https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-the-gunpowder-plot/
    The thirteen plotters: https://www.history.co.uk/articles/lesser-known-gunpowder-conspirators and https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Robert-Catesby/
    The Monteagle letter and the cellar search: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/explore-the-collection/stories/the-monteagle-letter/ and https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2006/02/09/the-plot-that-failed/
    "John Johnson" and the plan for Princess Elizabeth: https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/an-anonymous-letter-saved-king-and-parliament and https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2006/02/09/the-plot-that-failed/
    Fawkes's signatures: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/state-secrets/traitors-and-spies/sp-14216/
    His death: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-death-of-guy-fawkes
    Would it have exploded?: https://chemistryworld.com/features/gunpowder-treason-and-plot/3004619.article and https://arcane.org/2003/11/05/happy-guy-fawkes-day/
    The thanksgiving law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observance_of_5th_November_Act_1605 and https://cambridge.org/core/blog/2020/11/04/why-remember-the-fifth-of-november
    "Guy" to "you guys": https://www.etymonline.com/word/guy and https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/guy-fawkes-may-be-root-word-guys-180953250/
    Big Ben is the bell: https://www.history.com/articles/how-did-big-ben-get-its-name and https://willpearson.co.uk/big-ben
    Neuschwanstein: https://en.schwangau.de/sightseeing/neuschwanstein-castle and https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/
    Medieval beer and water: https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/ and https://content.www.wellcomecollection.org/stories/the-vilest-of-all-beverages
    Dying at thirty: https://www.medievalists.net/2023/09/20-myths-middle-ages/ and https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2025/07/what-age-was-actually-considered-old-in-medieval-europe/
    The lantern search: https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-Yeomen-Of-The-Guard and https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/parliament-pageantry/3/

    The Old Mess is voiced with AI and produced by Fola at Echoes Within Media.

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    11 mins
  • Mess Minute: Cleopatra's Looks, Gladiators and the Vomitorium
    Oct 30 2026

    Did Cleopatra win Rome with her looks? Did gladiators always fight to the death? And did Romans have a special room for throwing up? Three myths, two minutes.

    Sources
    Cleopatra: https://lexundria.com/plut_ant/27/prr (Plutarch, Life of Antony 27) and https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1491/was-cleopatra-beautiful/
    Gladiators: https://www.history.com/news/did-gladiators-always-fight-to-the-death and https://www.badancient.com/claims/gladiator-deaths/
    The vomitorium: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/purging-the-myth-of-the-vomitorium/ and https://www.history.com/articles/vomitoriums-fact-or-fiction

    The Old Mess is voiced with AI and produced by Fola at Echoes Within Media.

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    2 mins
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