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The So What from BCG

The So What from BCG

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This podcast from Boston Consulting Group looks around the corner of today’s big business and social issues. The goal–the so what–is to make sense of today and prepare busy leaders and executives for the day after tomorrow. Award-winning British journalist Georgie Frost interviews the leading thinkers and doers at BCG on the trends, developments, and ideas that will shape and disrupt the future. This is not your typical business strategy podcast. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrpCopyright 2024 Boston Consulting Group BCG Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • What Is AI Quietly Taking from Your Workforce?
    Nov 4 2026

    BCG’s Sagar Goel explains how everyday AI use is already eroding the judgment organizations rely on—and what leaders can do about it. Sagar, leader of the Human Futures lab at the BCG Institute, shares what 70 C-suite leaders have told BCG about how “distributed de-skilling” shows up in daily work. Among the most vexing problems: AI outputs that go unchallenged, accountability that slips, and junior talent who build skills more slowly.

    You’ll Learn:

    Why AI substitutes for thinking, not just supports it—and why that matters at scale.

    How to capture AI’s productivity gains while protecting human judgment.

    How AI-free zones and simple team habits keep critical thinking sharp.

    Learn More:

    When Everyone Uses AI, Companies Risk Losing Critical Skills: https://on.bcg.com/4zqcmpR

    The BCG Institute: https://on.bcg.com/3WnFC1F

    BCG’s Latest Thinking on People Strategy: https://on.bcg.com/4iT0SVJ

    BCG’s Latest Thinking on AI: https://on.bcg.com/4yP5qRL

    Chapters

    00:00 Is AI Eroding How We Think?

    01:24 What Does De-Skilling Look Like?

    03:35 Does AI Hinder Career Development?

    05:53 Should Companies Limit AI Use?

    06:47 Productivity Without Risking De-skilling

    07:58 How to Rethink Employee Training

    10:30 Who Owns AI’s Mistakes?

    11:12 How to Spot AI Gains and Losses

    13:01 Is Skill Loss Hard to Spot?

    14:37 How Can Leaders Counter De-skilling?

    Meet the Expert

    Name: Sagar Goel

    Title: Managing Director & Partner; Global Insights Leader, BCG Institute (leads the Human Futures Lab)

    Bio: https://on.bcg.com/4z11ttB

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sagar-goel-bb7b192/?isSelfProfile=false

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    16 mins
  • Your AI Strategy Must Be More than Just a Rollout
    Oct 21 2026

    Vinciane Beauchene explains why AI strategy, not tool access, drives value. Employees with plenty of tools but weak strategic guidance are five times less likely to see measurable impact. She explains how leaders can redesign work end-to-end, decide where to protect human value, and set clear guardrails as AI agents take on more. Adoption is an individual metric. Value creation is a systemic one. Vinciane is a former BCG Managing Director and Partner. She recently joined Schneider Electric as Chief AI Transformation Officer.

    You’ll Learn

    Why companies should focus on the most important places to protect human value.

    How calling AI a “coworker” negatively impacts accountability and leaves greater room for error.

    Why every employee should be able to answer three questions about their company’s AI strategy: where the company is going, what it means for their job, and how they will grow.

    Learn More:

    BCG’s Latest Insights on AI: https://on.bcg.com/4k5QU4i

    AI at Work: Strategy Matters More Than Tools: https://on.bcg.com/4hZpkmO

    Vinciane’s Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/vinciane_beauchene_will_ai_take_your_job_in_the_next_10_years_wrong_question

    Chapters

    00:00 How Is AI Changing Work?

    01:30 Are Companies Seeing Gains With AI?

    02:30 AI’s Real Impact on Business

    04:18 How Do You Measure AI Success?

    05:20 What Processes Should Companies Rework?

    08:48 Where Shouldn’t AI Be Used

    10:19 Which Human Skills Still Matter?

    11:07 How Will Agents Change Strategy?

    12:04 How AI Effects the Way Work Feels

    12:33 Is AI a Coworker or Tool?

    14:23 What Does Good Look Like for Employees?

    16:04 Move Fast or Redesign First?

    17:08 How Should Leaders Approach AI Deployment?

    Meet the Expert

    Vinciane Beauchene

    Former BCG Managing Director and Partner

    Schneider Electric Chief AI Transformation Officer

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinciane-beauchene-74a72131/

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    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/company/boston-consulting-group



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    19 mins
  • Lessons on Token-Based Competition from My All-AI Company
    Oct 7 2026

    BCG's Matt Kropp explains why productive AI use, not just access, is becoming the biggest lever for growth. Companies using AI purposefully are growing three times faster than those that aren't. So why are many still stuck? The winners aren't substituting people with AI — they're augmenting them and arming them with AI tools, building an advantage that compounds over time.

    You’ll Learn:

    Why “token-based competition” is emerging as the next growth advantage

    What Matt learned from building — and shutting down — an all-AI company

    The real reasons employees still aren't adopting AI at scale

    Learn More:

    The Era of Token-Based Competition Is Here. Is Your AI Strategy Ready?: https://on.bcg.com/4ARAa79

    BCG’s Latest Thinking on AI: https://on.bcg.com/4hZqpw1

    Matt’s Substack: https://mattkropp.substack.com/

    AI Costs a Fortune. Mismanaging AI Will Cost You More: https://lnk.to/so-what-BCG-Goydan-Lukic-AI-Cost12

    Chapters

    0:00 Equal AI Access, Equal Results?

    1:00 What Is Token-Based Competition?

    1:39 Token-Based Competition vs. Token-Maxing

    3:50 Inside a Zero-Human Company

    5:35 Lessons from An All-Agent Company

    10:03 How To Win in the Token Economy

    11:06 Is AI a Substitute for Labor?

    12:21 Token Use and Company Performance

    14:38 What Is Return on Intelligence?

    15:06 What ‘Intelligence’ Really Means

    15:41 Getting Your Team On Board

    17:00 Why AI Adoption Still Lags

    Meet the Expert

    Name: Matt Kropp, CTO, BCG X

    Bio: https://on.bcg.com/4s2FuRb

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kropp/

    Follow BCG

    Website: https://www.bcg.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boston-consulting-group



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    21 mins
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