In Episode 2 of Season 2, Will and Robert open with an honest conversation about generational leadership—breaking down the differences between how their father ran the business and how Will leads today. From communication styles to decision-making, they explore what had to evolve as the company and culture changed.

Will then sits down with longtime family friend and supply company owner Don Willard, who shares his firsthand experience transitioning the business to his two sons. Don opens up about the challenges of letting go, the importance of trust, and how to lead without stifling the next generation.

This episode is a must-listen for business owners, leaders, and families navigating succession, growth, and legacy. If you’re building something meant to outlast you, this conversation will hit home.

Season 2 kicks off with a full-circle moment. Will and Robert open the episode by reminiscing about growing up together—the laughs, the lessons, and the foundation their dad quietly built into their lives. From discipline and work ethic to relationships and character, they reflect on how those early years shaped who they are today.

Then, for the first time on The Willpower Podcast, they sit down with the man himself. In an honest and meaningful conversation, their dad shares wisdom on raising a family, leading with integrity, and what it really means to pass the torch of the family business to the next generation.

This episode is about legacy—what’s taught, what’s caught, and what lives on.

Strap in, Legends — this one’s a ride.

Will and Robert kick things off by swapping their wildest rollercoaster stories, from near-death drops to questionable carnival safety bars. The brothers bring their signature energy, humor, and brotherly chaos as they relive the thrills, the screams, and the moments they’re still arguing about.

Then Will sits down with Bill Burkhardt Jr, the heart and vision behind Kangaroof, for a conversation that goes far deeper than shingles and gutters. Bill opens up about leadership that starts with love, the courage to hold alternative points of view, and how humility can change the way you lead both people and businesses. It’s raw, grounded, and full of wisdom for anyone looking to grow.

From laughs to life lessons, this episode delivers a full spectrum of Willpower. Tune in, lean in, and enjoy the ride.