Comfort feels kind, but it keeps you immature. The wilderness is where God trains you for weight, yet most of us cheat the process by numbing pain, curating outcomes, and calling it wisdom, while our souls atrophy. This week on Win Today, Dr. Joel Tudman joins me to expose why "finding yourself inside yourself" is a dead end, how the Lord sometimes pulls us apart to make us whole, and how to stay spiritually agile when life is disruptive. If your faith has been built around feelings, not formation. And if you're tired of circling the same mountain with better language, this conversation will call you back to training for godliness, where it actually happens: in the desert.

Guest Bio

Dr. Joel A. Tudman is a pastor, communicator, and leadership coach who equips people to trade comfort for formation and preference for obedience. Known for clear, high-energy preaching and practical frameworks for spiritual growth, he serves churches and leaders across the country, training teams in character, resilience, and Spirit-led discipline. His work centers on courage, identity, and purpose, calling believers to be formed, not performed.

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There's a reason your hunger fades when life gets busy and your soul gets loud: boredom becomes a shortcut to numbing, entitlement masquerades as discernment, and self-pity convinces you that endurance is optional. This week on Win Today, Bethel Music's Kristene DiMarco joins me to confront the quiet habits that starve spiritual hunger and to show us how to train the soul when worship feels flat, prayer drags, and offense stands in the doorway of growth. We talk about the discipline of boredom, the anatomy of hunger, why entitlement and self-pity atrophy endurance, and how to lay down your "right" to be offended by everything in life so true formation can continue. If you feel dulled by distraction, easily offended, or tired of mistaking relief for transformation, this conversation will call you back to the long road of love.

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Kristene DiMarco is a songwriter and worship leader with Bethel Music, known for penning and recording modern hymns and congregational anthems and for leading worship at churches and conferences around the world. Her albums and collaborations with Bethel Music and Jesus Culture have introduced a wide range of songs to the global church, and she continues to write and lead with a focus on honest lyrics, theological clarity, and resilient faith.

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You can admire spiritual maturity from a distance, or you can take your formation journey seriously. Many of us prefer the former. We outsource growth to personalities, call delayed obedience "wisdom," and bargain with God when surrender would cost too much. This week on Win Today, Dr. Eric Mason joins me to confront the quiet drift that hollows discipleship: the consumer posture that fuels bad teaching, the spiritual immaturity that bargains with God, and the confusion that happens when we make our assignment our purpose. If your faith has been built around sermons more than Scripture, preferences more than practices, or outcomes more than obedience, this conversation is your invitation to grow up on purpose, with the Spirit, for the long road of holiness.

Guest Bio

Dr. Eric Mason is the founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and the founder/president of Thriving, an urban ministry training leaders for city contexts. A pastor-theologian for nearly three decades, he has preached and trained nationally and internationally and authored several books. He holds a B.S. in Psychology (Bowie State), a Th.M. from Dallas Theological Seminary—where he was mentored by Dr. Tony Evans at Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship—and a D.Min. from Gordon-Conwell. Eric and his wife, Yvette, live in Philadelphia with their four children: Immanuel, Nehemiah, Ephraim, and Amalyah.

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We're told to trust God when life falls apart and to cling to hope when we feel abandoned. To pray louder when heaven feels silent. But what if the silence isn't a punishment…but a pathway straight to His presence? What if the wall you've hit isn't the end, but the beginning of a deeper formation? This week on Win Today, I'm re-airing a raw and timely conversation with Dr. Lee Warren—one that took an unexpected turn moments before we hit record. What followed was one of the most personal and Spirit-led conversations I've ever had about wilderness seasons, grief, intrusive thoughts, and what to do when you feel like God has gone quiet. I opened up about the last two years of my life. And yet, what I've discovered in the silence is this: God's silence is not His absence. And when everything else shakes, His Word still stands. If you've ever felt stuck between the pain of what happened and the fear that nothing will change…if you've ever cried out for clarity and heard nothing in return…this episode is for you.

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This week on Win Today, Jordan Rubin reveals how the body doesn't lie—and why the ancient wisdom of Scripture contains the keys to healing not just physically, but mentally and emotionally as well. After nearly dying from severe Crohn's disease, Jordan discovered that health isn't compartmentalized. Everything is connected—gut to brain, body to soul. And that the Bible had already mapped out the blueprint for healing. If you've tried to fix your body but stayed anxious… if you've addressed trauma but still feel inflamed… or if you're wondering why prayer isn't reversing depression, this episode will rewire your entire framework for healing and longevity.

Guest Bio

Jordan Rubin is one of America's most respected natural health experts and bestselling authors. After nearly dying from severe Crohn's disease at 19, Jordan discovered a life-saving health plan rooted in ancient biblical nutrition and supported by modern science. He's the founder of Ancient Nutrition and the New York Times bestselling author of The Maker's Diet. His latest book, The Biblio Diet, explores how God's original design for eating, moving, and living is the roadmap to lasting health. Jordan's message bridges faith and science to help people heal from the inside out.

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You love Jesus, and you want to love the Bible, but most days, life crowds it out. And when you do open the text, it can feel confusing, disjointed, even offensive; so you reach for personalities who make it feel easier. The problem is that celebrity clarity often replaces biblical clarity. This week on Win Today, Zach Windahl—creator of The Bible Study and founder of The Brand Sunday—joins me to recover the unified story of Scripture and to challenge a popular church slogan: "belong before you believe." Belonging matters, but the New Testament's pattern is belief that forms a people, not a people that replaces belief. We'll name the most common study mistakes, walk a simple observation–interpretation–application path, and give you a way to read when you're bored, confused, or offended—so you meet the Lord in the words he actually inspired.

Guest Bio

Zach Windahl is the author of The Bible Study. His work has introduced hundreds of thousands to practical, repeatable study rhythms that move from information to transformation. Today isn't about his résumé; it's about putting tools in your hands so you can read what's there and be formed by it.

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There's a difference between loving the Bible and learning how to read it. For many, study has felt complicated, clinical, or—worst of all—boring. Some of us were discipled by personalities instead of passages; others learned to chase quick application while skipping context. This week on Win Today, Faith Womack, author of No More Boring Bible Study, joins me to rediscover a way of reading Scripture that is honest, thoughtful, and engaging. We wrestle with tension instead of flattening it; we name the mistakes that teachers and pastors often make, and we rebuild a faithful hermeneutic that carries you from observation to interpretation to application without distorting the text. If you've wanted easy methods, renewed energy for the grand story, and a path to encounter the Lord in the Word—not just opinions about the Word—this conversation is your on-ramp.

Guest Bio

Faith Womack is the author of No More Boring Bible Study: Why Taking Scripture Seriously Is Easier—and More Exciting—Than You Think and the creator behind Bible Nerd Ministries. Her work translates serious hermeneutics into clear, repeatable practices for everyday disciples. Today isn't about academic showmanship; it's about putting tools in your hands so you can read what's there and be formed by it.

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There's a way to live that squanders pain while your heart hardens and your trust thins. Things like numbing, retelling the wound, and calling it wisdom. This week on Win Today, Shawn Johnson, lead pastor of Red Rocks Church and author of Attacking Anxiety, joins me to explore how people waste pain and how to steward the middle seasons when nothing seems to be moving, but everything inside you is being formed. We draw the line between rest and peace, why bitterness and distrust grow in the same soil, and how to turn waiting into worship without pretending the ache away. If you're stuck in the middle, angry at the delay, or exhausted from managing outcomes, this conversation will help you regain your presence and cultivate a hard-won hope that lasts.

Guest Bio

Shawn Johnson is the lead pastor and co-founder of Red Rocks Church (Denver, multi-site), and the author of Attacking Anxiety, where he chronicles his own fight with anxiety and depression and the practices that helped him rebuild. His ministry blends candor about suffering with a relentless call to faith and formation. Today isn't about his résumé; it's about your next faithful step in the middle.

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• Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here!
• Invite me to speak at your church or event.
• Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.