Episodes

  • Everyone's hiring or job-hunting... no one's happy 🥵 Job market w/ Beth Katzman & Adi Blecher
    Dec 17 2025

    This isn’t another “AI is taking our jobs” conversation. This banter episode with Adi Blecher, VP Marketing at Wisor.AI and Beth Katzman, global recruitment expert, is a grounded look at how hiring expectations, budget pressure, and leadership misunderstandings are colliding and leaving marketers stuck in the middle.

    You’ll hear a blunt take on:
    Why companies are hunting for all-in-one marketers and why that role fails in practice;
    How AI is being used as a headcount shortcut, not a strategy;
    Which marketing roles are still in demand and which ones are quietly disappearing;
    The mistakes candidates make with CVs, LinkedIn profiles, and interviews;
    Why “visibility” isn’t optional if you want to be hired;
    The real risk behind 12–18 month job hopping;
    When it makes sense to move marketing teams to the US and when it backfires.

    If you’re a CMO, VP Marketing, or senior marketer navigating hiring freezes, unrealistic job specs, or career fatigue, this conversation will sound uncomfortably familiar.

    Watch the full episode to hear what hiring managers are actually looking for and what most candidates still get wrong.

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    21 mins
  • Running a B2B Influencer Pilot Like a Pro with Vector's Jess Cook
    Dec 4 2025

    If you think influencer marketing is only for B2C brands, think again.

    If you think influencer marketing is only for B2C and maybe B2B mega-brands, think again. Cause ‪Vector just proved that it can work ✨ magic ✨ with micro-influencers advertising your small(er) brand.

    In this episode of Banter with Billy, Billy sits down with Vector's Head of Marketing, Jess Cook, to understand how a $12,000 micro-influencer pilot turned into 45 demo requests, out of which 82% were ICP leads, and more than $1.1M in pipeline??????

    Jess breaks down how she built the entire program, but also what she would never do again, how to avoid the rookie mistakes, and why B2B brands should rethink “vampire months” like July and August.

    If you’ve been skeptical about influencer marketing in B2B, this conversation will hopefully change how you how you budget for 2026.

    Thanks, Jess!

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    20 mins
  • Enough with the AI hype... Danit Ben Simon shares AI tools that will actually help your GTM
    Nov 17 2025

    Everyone’s talking about “AI for marketing,” but few can show how it really drives revenue.

    In this session, Danit Ben Simon (Head of Demand Gen at Vendict) joins Billy to break down how she uses AI to actually build pipeline.

    From creating full-funnel campaigns with HeyGen avatars and Clay automations, to using real buying signals instead of overpriced intent data, Danit shows what AI can look like when you use it for more than (bad) content creation.

    You’ll hear:
    How AI helps small teams run like full GTM engines,
    Why “signals” beat “intent” every time,
    How to use video, personalization, and data enrichment to double demo bookings,
    Why outbound isn’t dead and how to make it work.

    We don't know a single marketer who isn't feeling overwhelmed with all the new AI tools out there, so if you're in the same boat, this one is for you.

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    20 mins
  • Your Tech Buyers Know More About Your Product Than You Do... With Santosh Sharan
    Oct 8 2025

    In this no-BS conversation, Envy's own Billy Cina sits down with Santosh Sharan, Co-Founder of Zeer AI, to dissect why traditional B2B go-to-market strategies are crumbling, and what’s replacing them.

    Spoiler alert: your buyers are way ahead of your SDRs.

    We cover:

    Why Gartner, G2, and outdated analyst models are collapsing,
    How AI is flooding the market with information, and why trust is the new currency,
    The shift from playbooks to personalization: no more 7-step templates.
    Why cold calling is beyond dead, and how AI agents will replace the noise,
    The real future of B2B differentiation: founder-led brand, community, and GTM motion,
    What it means when your buyer walks into the call knowing more than your rep.

    Santosh unpacks how Zeer AI is rethinking B2B research, trust-building, and buyer-vendor collaboration, and why insight should matter more than outreach in modern GTM.

    If you’re a founder, CMO, or GTM lead tired of noise, this is your signal to rethink the funnel.

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    21 mins
  • How to Get a Non-Believing CEO to Understand Marketing Attribution with Rand Fishkin
    Aug 11 2025

    Convincing a CEO that marketing matters (without perfect attribution data) can feel impossible. In this conversation, I asked Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro, why most attribution models mislead, what to measure instead, and how to reframe the conversation so leadership actually listens.

    You’ll learn:
    Why “proving” marketing through attribution is often a trap
    How to shift from attribution to lift-based measurement
    The one conversation to have before investing in brand, PR, or events
    How competitor actions can be your secret weapon in budget discussions
    Practical metrics for showing impact in long B2B sales cycles

    If your CEO only trusts Google and Facebook dashboards, this is your playbook for changing their mind.

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    21 mins
  • For the Love of Customer Marketing with Gaby Young
    Jul 14 2025

    We all love our customers. OK most customers. And we definitely all want more customers.

    We all understand that keeping and growing current customers is far more cost effective than acquiring new ones. So why oh why do most B2B tech companies invest so little in customer marketing?

    Billy Cina and Gaby Young banter this out and also cover what effective customer marketing looks like.
    Wadda you think?

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    19 mins
  • WTF Is a Data Scientist? And Why Marketers Should Care? Rotem Pinchover Answers Billy Cina's Questions
    Jul 2 2025

    What do data scientists actually do... and how is AI already reshaping their role?

    In this episode of Banter with Billy, we sit down with Rotem Pinchover, Senior Data Scientist at Intuit, to pull back the curtain on what data scientists really do, why it’s different from analysts, and how their work is transforming marketing, product, and personalization at scale.

    What you'll learn:
    The real difference between a data scientist and a data analyst (finally, some clarity).
    How Intuit is using data science to power hyper-personalized campaigns inside Mailchimp.
    Why generative AI isn’t replacing data scientists... but it is changing their toolkit.
    How rogue chatbots are redefining the importance of guardrails.
    Why the era of cookie-cutter marketing playbooks is over, and what that means for marketers.

    Along the way, we run live LLM comparisons, debate tech stacks for post-Series B startups, and talk about the rising need for agility, personalization, and constant innovation—in both marketing and data science.

    Whether you're a B2B marketer wondering how to keep up, or a data pro trying to prove your value in the age of AI, this one's for you.

    TL;DR: The future belongs to those who personalize, iterate, and ditch the playbook.

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    20 mins
  • Does #ABM deserve all the hype? Hear from Billy Cina and Pe'era Feldman
    Jun 30 2025

    Nowadays, everyone talks about ABM as a methodology that solves all your problems. We get it. We recommend ABM ourselves – but ABM motions aren't anything new, and they're not one solution to all your marketing problems.

    Tune in to hear from Billy Cina, Managing Partner of Envy, and Pe'era Feldman, Startegic Startup Advisor, on what you should do instead.

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    8 mins