The Exit the Matrix podcast is all about investigating what it is to life an abundant life, what gets in the way and once you find it how you keep in the flow. My guest Lisa Thomas says things that don't make sense are often inherited. Maybe it's not you.

Lisa is a TEDx speaker and the author of Mistakes into Money, and she works in energy healing and epigenetics. Her view is that the emotional experiences of the people who came before us can be passed down through what she calls cellular memory, and that some of the patterns we fight, a fear that makes no sense or a feeling that nothing is ever enough, may not have started with us.

I first heard Lisa speak at a retreat in early 2025, and it blew my mind. In this conversation, I ask the questions I have carried since: what a life of abundance really looks like, and what quietly holds it back.

Lisa tells the story of a business owner who made about 500,000 and still felt it was not enough, and the fear Lisa traced back to the Great Depression. She separates what we inherit from what we witness. Gifts and talents, she says, are inherited. Luck is not. She describes what "not enough" actually looks like in a driven person, why she says the subconscious thinks it is protecting you, and why she believes your mistakes can become your work.

Along the way: the simplest practice she shares for a hard emotion, and what it means to be the cycle breaker in your family.

Lisa shares her own views and experiences with energy healing and epigenetics. It is not medical advice.

If you have built a good life and still feel something is quietly holding you back, this conversation is for you.

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Greg Cassar's freedom formula is income divided by stress. He calls it his coolness factor, measures his decisions with it, and has passed on money that failed the test.

Greg is a profit strategist and coach who runs The Collective, a mastermind that started with marketing and grew into selling, mindset, emotional intelligence, health, investing and lifestyle design, because every time he helped his clients solve one problem, he found the next thing holding them back.

Jane asks him what a life of abundance really means, and what he has seen across the people he coaches. His answer is a set of clues. Freedom needs two engines: cash flow for the life you want now, and a big golden goose for later. The most successful people are smooth with their emotions. Awareness comes before change. Declare yourself, then scramble like crazy to deliver. And your peer group quietly rewrites your beliefs.

Along the way: the blank sheet of paper he uses when stress hits, why one of the best words he learned in business is "next", his one-question test for whose opinion to ignore, and why he sees the years from 50 to 75 as golden time he refuses to save for retirement.

If you have built the income and still do not have the freedom, this conversation is for you.

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Darren Stephens is a trained hypnotist, an NLP practitioner trained by Tony Robbins' teacher Dr Richard Bandler, the founder of the Success Library, and the only guest Jane has ever asked back onto the show.

The first time he came on, they talked about books. This time, Jane wants to know why people carry a limit on money, success or self-worth, and whether the stories written in our heads can actually be rewritten.

Darren answers with a pirate ship. Your conscious mind is the captain. Your unconscious is the crew. Treat the crew badly and you get a mutiny, and you call it procrastination. He explains what hypnosis really is (you go into it every night before you fall asleep), why a plank of wood proves your limits are beliefs about height, and how a red Ferrari at age 12 kept collapsing a woman's business at 35.

Along the way: the Mercedes dealership that doubled its sales after Darren walked out, the concrete floor in India where he realised he had already made it, a week before five star hotels with Dr John Gray, why your unconscious is lazy, and the five questions his family of nine answers at dinner every night.

Jane shares her own story of the dentist in Dubbo who hypnotised her from age six, and the maths teacher who nearly programmed her for life.

If you have ever set a goal, passed it, and kept striving anyway, this conversation is for you.

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Matthew James Bailey has spent twenty years pioneering artificial intelligence, with an ethical AI white paper headed for MIT and the Paris Ethical AI Summit. He has also spent forty years researching mysticism. In this conversation he brings both worlds together.

Some of the most famous names in spirituality keep asking him whether AI can read their souls. His answer will surprise you. AI is a smart librarian of knowledge. Nothing more, nothing less. The real intelligence you are looking for is already within you.

Matthew shares the encounter at eighteen on a Welsh beach that changed everything, why the earth was designed for abundance, how purpose can quietly become a prison, and the divine heart calibration that had Jane's soul say yes in the middle of a meditation.

If you have ever felt there must be more to your success, this conversation is your invitation to stop outsourcing your inner life and come home to it.

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Meet Denisse Torres, an extraordinary energetic coach and spiritual mentor who made a
fascinating leap from a 14-year career as a Systems Engineer at IBM to mastering a multitude
of healing modalities!

In this captivating interview, Denisse reveals:
• Her incredible journey from a logical systems engineering career to becoming a
master of diverse healing modalities like Reiki, Shamanism, and Quantum
Bioengineering!
• Groundbreaking research on the heart's electromagnetic field and its surprising
ability to anticipate events milliseconds before your cognitive awareness!
• How "karma energies" or "garbage" from past traumas and limiting beliefs can create
"veils" preventing you from living a life of heart's desire, and how to clear them!

Ready to unlock your true potential and live from your heart's desire? Watch the full
interview with Denisse Torres now and start your own journey to abundance at exitthematrix.io

This week, we sat down with Albert Bramante, a psychologist, hypnotherapist, NLP master, and performance mindset coach who works with top performers in arts and sports. He shared incredible insights on how to navigate rejection, overcome fear, and rewire your brain for success!

Here are some mind-bending takeaways from our chat:

• How do elite performers handle constant "no's" and rejection? Albert reveals powerful techniques to separate your self-worth from external outcomes. 🛡️
• Did you know you're being "hypnotized" every single day? 🤯 Discover how everyday suggestions influence your reality and how hypnotherapy can be a tool to conquer fear, anxiety, and even pain.
• Are you stuck in a "struggling artist" mindset, even if you're not an artist? Learn how simply changing your internal narrative can literally rewire your brain for a thriving reality! ✨

Ready to rewrite your script for success and claim the life you truly desire? Dive deep into these concepts and more!

Join us for a captivating interview with Arian Mateo, a Psychologist, Engineer, Master Psychotherapist, and Bestselling Author, who guides people through healing, transformation, and spiritual awakening. He shares his incredible path and challenges our understanding of reality!

Get ready to explore:

• His unexpected spiritual awakening at a discotheque while drinking beer! 🤯
• Why his mother once warned him not to ask deep questions about existence, saying "you might go insane." 🤔
• The profound paradox of fearing "being nothing," which in Taoist philosophy, is actually considered enlightenment! ✨

Ready to challenge your perceptions and unlock profound insights? Watch the full interview now!

Week 30 and the conversation on Abundance continues. I was fortunate enough to go to the source. Dame Doria Cordova, is a true pioneer in transformational training in personal development and business she who has empowered over 250,000 leaders across 85 countries since 1979.

And she is a Kingmaker - the greats of transformational work such as well known global figures like Tony Robbins and Robert Kiyosaki, Jack Cransfield all started as students in her course - Money And You.

In this incredible interview, Dame Doria reveals some truly fascinating insights:

• Did you know the inspiration behind "Rich Dad Poor Dad" came directly from Dame Doria's "Money & You" program? Get the inside scoop!
• Dame Doria shares her learning from over 50 years
• Why most live in scarcity and don't want to be rich.... how money problems are not the real problem and why many billionaires are unhappy
• We also revisit the Ho'oponopono meditation and how her work with the woman who first shared this powerful Hawaiian practice with the world
• Imagine having a life plan that includes dedicating yourself to full-time philanthropy at 80!

Dame Doria shares her incredible vision for making a lasting contribution. Dame Doria drops names of those that are household names from her 50 years of service.