• 051: The End of Interesting: AI in Experimentation with Deborah O'Malley
    Jun 9 2025

    In this episode of Intended Consequences, Brian Massey sits down with Deborah O'Malley, founder of GuessTheTest.com, to explore the fast-changing world of AI in experimentation — from A/B testing myths to the ways AI is already changing how digital marketers approach conversion optimization.

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    47 mins
  • 050: Beyond Data: How ChatGPT Uncovers Emotions to Fuel Effective Ad Concepts with Joe Putnam
    Jun 7 2025

    Join us for "Beyond Data: How ChatGPT Uncovers Emotions to Fuel Effective Ad Concepts," a dynamic session exploring AI's transformative role in eCommerce marketing. Discover how ChatGPT leverages emotional sentiment analysis to go beyond numbers, capturing authentic consumer feelings to inspire creative ad strategies.

    We will examine real-world examples, demonstrate actionable techniques, and discuss how emotional insights can drive winning ad concepts, compelling copy, and innovative campaign angles. This session empowers marketers to harness advanced AI tools, bridging the gap between data and human emotion to create powerful advertising campaigns. Unlock the secret to emotionally charged, results-driven advertising.

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    31 mins
  • 002: Two Guys on Your Website: The Surprising Link Between CRO and SEO
    Jul 18 2024

    Google's document leak uncovered surprising connections between conversion rate optimization (CRO), search engine optimization (SEO) and user experience (UX). Listen in as Conversion Scientists® Joel Harvey and Brian Massey talk about these connections and what they mean for optimizers.

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    29 mins
  • 001: Two Guys on Your Website: The Different Conversion Optimization Techniques You Should Consider
    Jul 3 2024

    Conversion rate optimization (CRO) is important at every stage of your business. But not every website is ready for a full-team all-in conversion optimization team. You may not be able to do the A/B testing that is the hallmark of so many CRO projects. Here are conversion optimization techniques that work no matter where you are on the CRO spectrum.

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    46 mins
  • 049: SEO and CRO Working Together with Jason Fisher
    Nov 17 2022
    Jason Fisher is a search engine optimizer who understands the value of having pages that convert well. He takes us through his strategy of bringing qualified search visitors to our site and then turning them into leads, sales, and revenue.
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    33 mins
  • 048: What The Data Says About Podcasting | Rob Walch
    Jul 22 2020

    What would it look like if you could give your digital brand a human voice? On today's Intended Consequences, we brought in Rob Walch, VP of Podcaster Relations at Libsyn, the world's leading podcast hosting site.

    Rob was one of the earliest podcasters in the industry and a highly sought-after speaker and consultant in the podcasting community. Listen in as he shares some fascinating insights on the world of podcasting, the numbers involved, and how a semi-digital medium fits in a digital marketing context.

    Quick Links:

    • Connect with Rob
    • Learn more about Libsyn
    • Follow Brian on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bmassey
    • Learn more about Conversion Sciences: https://conversionsciences.com/
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    40 mins
  • 047: What The Data Says About Turning Marketing Leads Into Sales | Sammy James
    Jul 15 2020

    Sales is a conversation, so how can you expect to sell if that conversation never happens, or doesn't happen fast enough? On today's show, Brian chats with Sammy James, CEO and founder of Speak2Leads, an automated lead response and follow-up tool.

    Sammy is a sales and marketing guru with experience in media, radio, tech, and advertising. He understands the nuances of sales and the challenges marketers face when working with their sales teams, most importantly that salespeople are humans too, not cold-calling machines immune to rejection or sales inertia.

    Listen in to hear the full conversation.

    Quick Links:

    • Connnect with Sammy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sammyjames/
    • Learn more about Speak2Leads: https://www.speak2leads.com/
    • Follow Brian on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bmassey
    • Learn more about Conversion Sciences: https://conversionsciences.com/
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    46 mins
  • 046: What Data Tells Us About Email | Liz Willits
    Jul 8 2020

    After almost four decades, I believe the best choice for another shot at a conversion is still that quaint old communication medium: email.

    Email still can't be beat for rich content, for conversations that feel one-to-one, and for getting another shot at a future customer. It's the original social media platform.

    Liz Willits is a self-professed email marketing nerd, and the Senior Content Marketing Specialist at AWeber, one of the 'OG; email services. She has worked with some of the most successful marketers in the world to help them with their email marketing strategies.

    Liz doesn't think you're sending too much on email, and she's got the data to prove it. If we're not sending too much on email, then what's keeping our email from being more productive? Listen in to hear her take.

    Resources and links discussed:

    • Connect with Liz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-willits/
    • Learn more about AWeber: https://www.aweber.com/
    • 30-day Trial of AWeber: https://www.aweber.com/order.htm
    • AWeber Smart Designer: https://www.aweber.com/email-templates-smart-designer.htm?utm_source=awblog&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=smartdesigner&utm_content=blogcontent092619smartdesignerannouncement
    • Follow Brian on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bmassey
    • Learn more about Conversion Sciences: https://conversionsciences.com/
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    43 mins