Very few people can say they were in the room when a masterpiece was made. Ken Caillat was behind the desk for all of it. He's best known for producing and engineering the Fleetwood Mac albums Rumours, Tusk, Mirage and Live, capturing Dreams, Go Your Own Way and The Chain while the band's relationships fell apart around him. That work brought an Album of the Year Grammy, and his recordings have sold over 50 million copies.

Now his book Making Rumours, out in the UK since 10 September, lifts the lid on the hedonism and excess of those sessions. In this episode he shares some of those stories with us...

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Georgie Bell is co-founder and CEO of The Heart Cut, the award-winning independent whisky bottler she launched in 2023 with her husband, Fabrizio Leoni. Focused on single casks from small, innovative producers around the world alongside renowned names, The Heart Cut was named Independent Bottler of the Year at the Global Icons of Whisky Awards in both 2024 and 2025, and Producer of the Year at The Whisky Exchange Awards 2026. Georgie's whisky career began behind the bar at the Scotch Malt Whisky Society while studying geography at the University of Edinburgh, where she wrote her dissertation on whisky and regional identity. She went on to become luxury malts ambassador for Diageo's Mortlach, then joined Bacardi in 2016 as global malts ambassador, later serving as head of advocacy for its incubation brands. She is a Keeper of the Quaich, a Liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Distillers, and holds a distillation qualification. She also serves as a trustee of the Wine & Spirit Education Trust.

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Steve Oliver is the Founder and CEO of musicMagpie, one of the great Northern entrepreneurial success stories. After the collapse of Music Zone, the retailer he was managing director of, a failure that cost him half the value of his family home. Steve invested the other half into a new venture, by starting trading people’s old CDs and DVDs initially from his garage in Stockport in 2007. What began as a "lazy man's eBay" for trading in CDs, DVDs and games pivoted towards phones and consumer tech, growing today into the number one buyer and seller of refurbished phones in the UK and, remarkably, the biggest seller in the history of both eBay and Amazon globally. musicMagpie floated on the London Stock Exchange in 2021 at a value of £208 million, and was subsequently acquired by AO in late 2024. Across its history the business has generated a cumulative £2 billion of gross income. A pioneer of the circular economy and champion of sustainability, Steve also chairs the Stockport Economic Alliance, and announced in July that he'll step down at the end of September in his words, "to chase more thrills."

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Claudia Cardinali is a social media strategist andpersonal-branding specialist, and one of the sharpest voices in the fast-growing business of building people into influential brands. Now working independently and building her own thing, she brings a rare depth of experience to the question every founder, expert and executive is now asking: how do Iactually cut through online?

She previously worked as a senior strategist at GreatInfluence, the agency dedicated to building high-profile personal brands, where she helped shape the online presence of some genuinely big names with the agency's roster spanning the likes of Gary Neville, Grenade founder Alan Barratt,author and Times columnist Matthew Syed, and MyProtein founder Oliver Cookson.

Her specialism is the craft of personal branding: understanding what makes someone worth following and translating their expertise and personality into content that lands.

Claudia is also a sought-after speaker and educator, teaching at General Assembly and appearing regularly on marketing and career podcasts, where she unpacks everything from authenticity to navigating the "quarter-life crisis."With a large, engaged LinkedIn following of her own, she practises exactly what she preaches. I hope you enjoy it...

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Clint Boon is a Manchester institution. Bornin Oldham, he rose to fame as the keyboard player of Inspiral Carpets, the band responsible for that defining organ sound and a stack of acclaimed, chart-topping singles and albums at the heart of Madchester. After the band split in 1995 he formed The Clint Boon Experience, before two decades as a fixture of the airwaves on XFM, BBC Radio Manchester, Radio X and XS Manchesteralongside a parallel life as one of the country's most in-demand club DJs. The Inspirals reformed in 2023 to sold-out tours, with a sixth studio album, Burn Like the Sun, due in January 2027.

His first book, TheManchester Chronicles: True Tales of Music, Madness and Mayhem 1976–2006, is published by Monoray on 3rd September with a foreword by Shaun Ryder. A personal folk-telling of the city's musical coming of age, from punk through Madchester, rave and beyond. Guy Garvey has called it "the greatest rock and roll book ever written."

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The man behind the voice of Tiny Tim, Tim Bradbury joins Sam to discuss his career to date including his start in comedy, where the voice came from, life and tour and what the future holds. There’s also some beatboxing, a rant about a lightbulb and what it’s like to be punched by Eddie Hall…

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Sam Grainger is the co-founder and chef behind some of the North West’s best loved restaurants including Liverpool’s Belzan, the growing Madre brand and Winsome. We talk about how he fell in love with cooking, a move to Australia which launched his career and how to grow a brand. I hope you enjoy it…

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Hello and welcome back. This week we’re joined by Simon Keegan, the editor of Insider North-West. We talk through his three careers as a journalist, a best-selling author and a martial artist. Along the way we offend some gangsters in Salford, find the origins of King Arthur and his life in karate… I hope you enjoy it.

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