With Abi on vacation, Chris invites a friend, Aaron West, to discuss his sober journey, detail the ups and downs of early recovery, and share his experiences over the last 5 years of sobriety.

Abi and Chris discuss the difficulty of showing others that quitting drugs and alcohol is just the first step in a lifelong journey of learning how to socialize, cope with life, and rebuild identity--all without substances, while actively healing.

Abi and Chris each share about the mental, emotional, and physical gymnastics they experienced while struggling with their addictions, and how this transferred energy is now used in recovery.

Abi and Chris each share their experiences with feeling unsupported in their sobriety, how their perceptions may have played a role, how they managed triggers, and how they stayed resilient in their recovery.

Abi and Chris each share a story about an experience that occurred while deep in their addictions. While the story seemed "epic" at the time, now in recovery they each share what they've learned, how they overcame the experiences, and reflections on the destruction they have left in their addiction.

Abi and Chris discuss life in early recovery and their struggles to balance sobriety with the real life challenges they faced.

Abi and Chris discuss what led to their decision to stop abusing substances, find sobriety, and begin their recovery journey, while sharing what they learned along the way.

Abi and Chris discuss their first experiences with substances and reflect on how those experiences may or may not have led to their addictions, and what they have learned about their journey in recovery.